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[WiT]

QUOTE (mattg39 @ Sep 1 2003, 05:02 AM)

why the hell do you have that avatar, this is not the place for gay shit like that

[GuySmily]

QUOTE (paperchas @ Sep 1 2003, 11:08 AM)

I just bought a 200gig hard drive for 99.99 after mail in rebate at Fry's

Really? Which Fry's was this?  I see a couple at outpost.com for $130 after rebate.. One even comes with a free lego bionicle!

[gggie]

QUOTE (alphaman @ Sep 1 2003, 12:40 AM)

Is there really a noticeable difference between the 5400rpm and 7200rpm drives?  I would think you may see a difference in maybe the load time of the game, but not actual game play?  Anyone have specific info on this and buffer size?

I'm wondering about this too -- anyone who said 8mb cache/7200 would definitely be faster want to comment?

After all, these are games meant to be run from a DVD - which is going to be slower than any hard drive (even a 5400rpm one with 2mb cache) -- what is the real world difference going to be between a 7200/8mb drive and a 5400/2mb drive on the xbox?

(if it just means games loading slightly faster, i wouldn't really feel a need to get the faster drive)

[GuySmily]

The difference between drives will be unnoticable.  However, I would still go with the highest quality possible, since you are still paying money for it.

[bullsonparade]

The only enhancement that faster drives
can offer is speedier load times. The games themselves
won't run any faster because they are paced and frame limited
to run on the xbox hardware. Unlike pc games which are made
to scale and degrade "gracefully", console games are given strict
fps and timing limits. This is all AFAIK, of course i could be wrong.

~bulls

[Jsmith]

QUOTE (GuySmily @ Sep 1 2003, 03:47 PM)

The difference between drives will be unnoticable.  However, I would still go with the highest quality possible, since you are still paying money for it.

And because one day your may upgrade your xbox hard drive with an even larger one, and you'll put the current one into your computer.  Now, would you really want a 5400 rpm 2mb hard drive in your PC?  I wouldn't.

[GuySmily]

Precisely!  But if you find something with significantly cheaper prices, I guess I would say go for it anyway.

[seneros]

ive been trying my best to keep up on this post, but is this it? (beta, but it nonetheless?)

http://home.alltel.net/nghtshd/Data/XBtool_1.0.8b6.zip
on
http://home.alltel.net/nghtshd/xbtool.html

[oz_paulb]

QUOTE (seneros @ Sep 2 2003, 03:13 AM)

ive been trying my best to keep up on this post, but is this it? (beta, but it nonetheless?) http://home.alltel.n...ool_1.0.8b6.zip on http://home.alltel.n...shd/xbtool.html

Yes, that's it.  I've done some amount of testing, but I'm not guaranteeing that it's bug-free.  People should use at their own risk.  After more people are actively using it, we'll get a better feel for how 'solid' it is.

- Paulb

[oz_paulb]

See this thread for info on the newly released (beta) LBA48 (> 137GB) support in Xbtool.

http://forums.xbox-s...ST&f=41&t=97997

- Paulb

[Heet]

I just bought a 250 gig WD.  Would have gotten the 300 but I dont like Maxtor at all.  Thanks a lot man, glad to be a tester in a few days!!!!!!!

[Flagg3]

QUOTE (gggie @ Sep 1 2003, 08:21 PM)

QUOTE (alphaman @ Sep 1 2003, 12:40 AM) Is there really a noticeable difference between the 5400rpm and 7200rpm drives?  I would think you may see a difference in maybe the load time of the game, but not actual game play?  Anyone have specific info on this and buffer size? I'm wondering about this too -- anyone who said 8mb cache/7200 would definitely be faster want to comment? After all, these are games meant to be run from a DVD - which is going to be slower than any hard drive (even a 5400rpm one with 2mb cache) -- what is the real world difference going to be between a 7200/8mb drive and a 5400/2mb drive on the xbox? (if it just means games loading slightly faster, i wouldn't really feel a need to get the faster drive)

Well, obviously gameplay will not improve per se, but load times are SIGNIFICANTLY faster on the 7200rpm/8mb drives.

Load times affect you in almost every aspect of the box.  Every time you load a game, whenever you see a "LOADING" screen in a game, whenever you load a new piece of software, etc.  

It's basically the same advantages you'll see with the faster drives on a PC.  It's definitely a noticeable improvement.

Flagg

[boxorox]

QUOTE (Flagg3 @ Sep 2 2003, 03:22 AM)

QUOTE (gggie @ Sep 1 2003, 08:21 PM) QUOTE (alphaman @ Sep 1 2003, 12:40 AM) Is there really a noticeable difference between the 5400rpm and 7200rpm drives?  I would think you may see a difference in maybe the load time of the game, but not actual game play?  Anyone have specific info on this and buffer size? I'm wondering about this too -- anyone who said 8mb cache/7200 would definitely be faster want to comment? After all, these are games meant to be run from a DVD - which is going to be slower than any hard drive (even a 5400rpm one with 2mb cache) -- what is the real world difference going to be between a 7200/8mb drive and a 5400/2mb drive on the xbox? (if it just means games loading slightly faster, i wouldn't really feel a need to get the faster drive) Well, obviously gameplay will not improve per se, but load times are SIGNIFICANTLY faster on the 7200rpm/8mb drives. Load times affect you in almost every aspect of the box.  Every time you load a game, whenever you see a "LOADING" screen in a game, whenever you load a new piece of software, etc.   It's basically the same advantages you'll see with the faster drives on a PC.  It's definitely a noticeable improvement. Flagg

This thread is not about HDD speed and cache, but I agree.  There was an immediate noticeable improvement when I switched from the orginal HDD.  I had Halo backed up on both and i don't think it is my imagination, the maxtor160GB 7200 8mb cache boots the game alot faster.

It would be excellent if someone could try it with two Xboxes side by side.

[AsTnBoMb]

Well, of course its going to be faster, the hard drive can spin at a faster rate and pull up data faster.  People say 7200 rpm overheats, but i dont believe that.  Might as well get a 7200 if price difference isnt overwhelming.

[EvilWays]

I'm just wondering why they aren't phasing out 5400 rpm desktop drives yet. It seems as soon as Maxtor releases the next big drive (in 5400 rpm of course), WD comes along a few months later with a 7200 rpm version, I guess just to prove that heat isn't much of an issue with newer and larger drives.