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twisted_oak

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« on: July 19, 2006, 09:42:00 AM »

Ok.....

I am wondering. Has anyone switched from component to VGA and noticed a drastic enough difference? I have a xbox that can run 1080i, etc via component. Should I go through the trouble and the risk of flashing my box to use a VGA cable?

I will be displaying the signal on a DLP projector. It has component and VGA connectors. I just want to know if it is worth it if I am already displaying 480p,720p, and 1080i on component. The tutorials had screenshots of S-Video vs. VGA. This doesn't apply to my situation.

Thanks!
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deadparrot

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« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2006, 10:38:00 AM »

Due to the fact that VGA is not officially supported, and the complications that come with it, on the Xbox1 you are better to go with component.

This post has been edited by deadparrot: Jul 19 2006, 05:38 PM
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TheIrishLad

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« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2006, 10:25:00 AM »

To my knowledge VGA can't support the higher resolutions, so you will be able to display 480p, and 640x480 nicely.  720p and 1080i are off the radar at the moment, but few games support those resolutions...and plain DVDs need to be scaled to those resolutions anyways.  

I'm buying a VGA cable from pimpmaul69 he can make it for 20$ shipped, with SOG and all that crap if your looking for a cheap cable.  wink.gif

If someone could make a BIOS supporting 720p and 1080i, or basically any higher resolutions, then the VGA way would be a lot more appealing to most.  Or maybe incorporate code into an already made VGA Bios...that would work also.  Somone suggested this but the person said he had no reason since most games don't support 720p.... sad.gif
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« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2006, 12:20:00 PM »

QUOTE(TheIrishLad @ Jul 19 2006, 12:32 PM) *

To my knowledge VGA can't support the higher resolutions, so you will be able to display 480p, and 640x480 nicely.  720p and 1080i are off the radar at the moment, but few games support those resolutions...and plain DVDs need to be scaled to those resolutions anyways.  

I'm buying a VGA cable from pimpmaul69 he can make it for 20$ shipped, with SOG and all that crap if your looking for a cheap cable.  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

If someone could make a BIOS supporting 720p and 1080i, or basically any higher resolutions, then the VGA way would be a lot more appealing to most.  Or maybe incorporate code into an already made VGA Bios...that would work also.  Somone suggested this but the person said he had no reason since most games don't support 720p.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)


I run 720p on my vga setup.  I can run 1080i also, I have no games that support it however.  In his case though, component is the best bet.
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twisted_oak

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« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2006, 12:23:00 PM »

QUOTE(DVADER @ Jul 19 2006, 06:51 PM) View Post

I run 720p on my vga setup.  I can run 1080i also, I have no games that support it however.  In his case though, component is the best bet.


I am not really concerned with gaming. I am primarily using the xbox as a media center. I am wondering if anyone has noticed a drastic difference between component and VGA. Does VGA look tons better than component at 480p, 720p, or even 1080i?
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« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2006, 12:45:00 PM »

QUOTE(twisted_oak @ Jul 19 2006, 02:30 PM) View Post

I am not really concerned with gaming. I am primarily using the xbox as a media center. I am wondering if anyone has noticed a drastic difference between component and VGA. Does VGA look tons better than component at 480p, 720p, or even 1080i?



VGA is the exact same quality as component.
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twisted_oak

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« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2006, 12:55:00 PM »

QUOTE(DVADER @ Jul 19 2006, 07:52 PM) View Post

VGA is the exact same quality as component.


Thanks. That settles it.  wink.gif
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The Zep Man

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« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2006, 01:47:00 PM »

QUOTE(TheIrishLad @ Jul 19 2006, 06:32 PM) View Post

To my knowledge VGA can't support the higher resolutions, so you will be able to display 480p, and 640x480 nicely.  720p and 1080i are off the radar at the moment, but few games support those resolutions...and plain DVDs need to be scaled to those resolutions anyways.  
VGA supports 640x480 in mode 1+3. In mode 2+3, 480p (720x480), 720p (1280x720) and 1080i (1920x1080) are supported, as long as your monitor can handle it.
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« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2006, 12:24:00 PM »

have asked this question on a simlar thread but no response.

My xbox is hooked to my vga port on my projector - using the hd pack connected to a component to vga cable (using couplers). Have enabled the higher res using enigma and can see the difference between 480 and 720.

Am I getting true component quality? Will something like the x2vga be of any benefit to me?
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deadparrot

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« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2006, 01:16:00 PM »

If you can get 720p, it's not worth a VGA transcoder.
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« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2006, 04:03:00 PM »

OK - thanks for your help. But why do people go to the trouble of making a vga lead when they can just do what i did? Is it just because it's cheaper to make a lead?
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ClintiePoo

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« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2006, 12:03:00 AM »

VGA or Component, either way I'm going to view my xbox on a computer monitor.  I used to use a VGA transcoder to go from component to VGA.  I now use a homebrew VGA cable.  The picture I get from the cable is clearer than the one from the transcoder.
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« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2006, 04:30:00 AM »

Hi Guys,
im connecting my Box with a VGA-Box selfmade (LM 1881)!
In the drawing of JaredC01 u can see, that the component-output  
exactly uses the same signals as the VGA-output.
So the quality in both modes is the same.
I'm using the Box with a DLP-Projector and the inD-Bios.
Is it possible that the inD-Bios only can handle the 480p Output?
Using a patched X2 5035 Bios my Projector shows 1080i and 720p in XBMC,
but it's extremly flickering. With the inD Bios the higher Resolutions aren't displayed!

Sorry for my bad english  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Greets, flexbeat
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« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2006, 06:19:00 AM »

720p with VGA BIOSes will display, but have a very noticeable purple tint.  This is due to sync issues.  Masticism got 720p working with homemade VGA cables, but it is currently only a solution for softmod people.  Chip people with a homemade VGA cable hoping for 720p are left in the dark.  We need a 720p VGA Bios.
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« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2006, 09:38:00 PM »

QUOTE(Textbook @ Aug 21 2006, 06:50 AM) View Post

We need a 720p VGA Bios.

Yes.... smile.gif

Can someone clear up to me what modes 1,3 and 2,3 are?  I have looked and tryed to figure it out, but I still can't get what they are... unsure.gif
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