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rob_hellfire

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« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2005, 07:45:00 AM »

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Sonething like this. (please have sympathy for me taking so long for something so crappy smile.gif

This had a screen and lookedea wee bit better but some fool (no offence mr mod.) stopped me from putting lots of spaces on a line sad.gif
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« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2005, 08:48:00 AM »

QUOTE(Ickypoopy @ Apr 27 2005, 12:57 PM)
Generally the projectors will project at an upwards angle, as to not obstruct view of the screen if sitting behind the projector.  Imagine watching a slideshow on a projector, but the projector blocks the center of the screen wink.gif
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« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2005, 12:47:00 PM »

The 800x600 resolution will run your 480p games just fine, but 720p games cannont be effectively shown in High Definition on a 800x600 projector.

That's not a huge deal now, but when Xbox 2nd gen comes out, you'll want it to shine with your projector. Might as well get a higher res.

As for the wall. . . I understand you're renting, so you may not be able to sand the wall flat and paint it.

I believe what Icky was saying, but I'm an A/V guy and a science geek. The truth is, if you shine a light on a rouned surface (even if it's a bunch of tiny rounded bumps), the light gets scattered, instead of being reflected accurately. It's like throwing a baseball at a basketball. The light gets bounced every which way, instead of giving a consisten picture to everyone from many angles. Flat walls are best. But bumpy ones will do.

As for the screen. . . A screen would be best, but if you can't get a screen, A smooth wall with flat paint will be the next best thing. "Flat" means it's not glossy. Now, some will argue about the best color of flat paint to buy. Some say white, while others say off-white, and some even say light gray. But flat paint is definitely what you want on the surface if you can't have a screen.

Really, a bunch of the guys here can attest that you'll get a decent image using many setups, and several setups will do, but I'm just trying to briefly let you know what's going to give you the highest quality image possible.

As for trapezoidal (keystone) adjustment, definitely get one with keystone ability. This will allow you to mount your projector at any respective angle, and adjust for the non-perpendicular alignment to the surface you are projecting onto. Most projectors sold today have that ability.

Also keep in mind that most projectors have a VGA (or equivalent) input to allow you to hook up a pc or laptop. This would be great while you're away at college because you could do your homework on the big-screen in your room, just for the fun of it!

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« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2005, 05:51:00 AM »

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Somebody said before about setting up not really being for amateurs?  does this mean i can't set it up or just that it'll take me longer to get it right than for an expert?

Thanx again, i'm getting £250 a week job over summer (huge amount of money for a student smile.gif ) so will be buying before september ready for the new semester smile.gif
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« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2005, 10:36:00 AM »

QUOTE(rob_hellfire @ May 6 2005, 03:57 AM)
Keystone seems to be a very common feature as you said and i understand that setup will be fun smile.gif


You misunderstood me...keytsone adjustment is a common feature...I didn't say to look for that, I said, look for "optical keystone" adjustment.  Otherwise you are just loosing resolution by "faking" it.  Similar to the different between optical and digital zoom on a digital camera.
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« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2005, 12:07:00 AM »

I use an old (1998) Hitachi LCD projector for my XBox. It's very old 800x600 (it will do 1024x768, but you can't read anything) and 650 lumins.  The quality looks fine when I project it on the wall for around a 60" display.  It's old and big, but I got it for free so I don't care.  

I found it really works well when hulled to a friends house for some XBox gaming or watching a movie.  Don't bolt yours down too much, you may want to take it with you.

Oh, and you will need a VGA adapter for the XBox and a long (I use a 15 foot one) VGA cable. Don't even think of using the SVideo or RCA cable for video. I may have to hurt you if you do.

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« Reply #21 on: May 09, 2005, 05:13:00 AM »

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Oh i'm guessing vga needs and expensive cable to convert the signal as for compnent and dvi, whats going to make the difference for a 800x600 or 1024x768?

Hell my heasds hurting again uhh.gif

And i won't need dsuch a long cable anyways as going to have the xbox under my bed so wires from controllers pop up at my feet when playing so only gonna need a cable of say 8 feet.  Though will get a bigger one it it's cheap
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« Reply #22 on: May 09, 2005, 12:43:00 PM »

S-Video is pretty bad...cannot handle progressive or any of the HD modes.

You want a projector that has component video in (3 RCA cables for video) and supports HD.

It should (IMHO) have a native 1280x720 resolution or better.  Remember, most XBOX games support 16:9 widescreen.  1024x768 is 4:3 non-widescreen.  1280x720 is native widescreen.

BTW one of the things that might be confusing, is there are projectors made more for home theaters (i.e. have component video inputs, support 720p and 1080i HD modes, support widescreen natively, may have a built in TV tuner) and ones made more for a computer/office environment (i.e. have VGA or DVI inputs, support 4:3 aspect ratio natively).
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« Reply #23 on: May 11, 2005, 02:32:00 PM »

QUOTE(YoMama1111 @ May 11 2005, 12:03 PM)
I have, it's called lens shift - the sanyo z2 and z3 both have it.


Is that adjustable?  It sounds like an optical keystone adjustment, like I was talking about.  unsure.gif

If a projector doesn't have that, it would need to be mounted mid screen.
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« Reply #24 on: May 11, 2005, 03:05:00 PM »

QUOTE(rob_hellfire @ Apr 27 2005, 02:55 AM)
I'm not sure if i can paint the wall with it being a rented house.



most all landlords say you can't paint the apaartment, everywhere i go everyone paints there rented apartment,  the main thing is to repaint it the original color before you leave or they deduct it out of your security deposit as they will have to contract  a painter and pay him before the next tennant moves in, so as long as you repaint, i really wouldnt worrie about that too much

try searching around in the show notes for the screensavers at g4techtv.com

there was an episode about making your own screen with a special canvas or using a wall with some special paint, i think total cost was like 150.00 bucks US and that was using the canvas
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« Reply #25 on: May 11, 2005, 11:03:00 PM »

QUOTE(Mr Ed @ May 11 2005, 08:38 PM)
Is that adjustable?  It sounds like an optical keystone adjustment, like I was talking about.  unsure.gif
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« Reply #26 on: May 12, 2005, 11:12:00 AM »

Ok, so they are ALMOST the same thing:

Lens Shift:

http://htrgroup.com/...tion=lens-shift

Keystone:

http://htrgroup.com/...ection=keystone

In the search you posted, a lot of people are saying optical keystone and lens shift are the same thing, but it looks like they are different in that with optical keystone, the projector points at the center of the image being projected, but at an angle to the verticle wall, whereas with lens shift, the projector stays perpendicular to the verticle wall.
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rob_hellfire

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« Reply #27 on: May 23, 2005, 08:23:00 AM »

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Oh well, alwats look forward

Also been readig about hd-packs and ntsc conversion, this sounds like it resets on reboot (enigma) so to not break your xbox, just wondering if i need ntsc games or will it just change the video encoder?
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« Reply #28 on: May 24, 2005, 12:18:00 PM »

Yo!

Guys, i'm trying to setup a Toshiba  TDP-T90 projector with the Xbox... but can't see widescreen on it.

The setup is like this:



          Xbox
widescreen mode
           l
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        VDZ3
VGA Transcoder

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           l

   Projector
         

          ll
No widescreen!!




Any ideas?


TIA
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