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« Reply #30 on: August 21, 2004, 11:40:00 AM »
QUOTE (fahrenheit @ Aug 21 2004, 11:48 AM)
That cable looks fairly cheap n' nasty and the one in the picture has a PS2 connector on the end.

I'm sure it will do you fine.

where's the need?
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« Reply #31 on: August 23, 2004, 06:39:00 PM »
The odds of an rgb cable fixing you picture being outside of the screen is remote. It seems that your tv just cant handle the input properly or your geometry needs to be setup. Usually and engineer code is needed to enter the service menu.

You really do need to get a newer tv. I've had 10 year old tvs that support rgb and 60hz, you dont need a 100hz tv to get a 60hz picture.


Also i have both an MS and cheapo rgb lead and there isnt hardly any difference (its not the joytech either). Also make sure the splitter you have passes through RGB because in argos there are two kinds and putting rgb into a crap scart splitter will at worst lose your picture or at best give you a compsite picture.

Also when/if you get an rgb lead the odds are that you might suffer from rgb shift which means that the picture is shunted about an inch to the left. My old 32" wega did this , but the other tv i have has an rgb shift in the tv menu

Some games have screen adjustment , but most don't and i think this would be best done from within the MS dash (XBMC does it, though i doubt this may help but worth a try if its installed)

hope this helps clear things up a little more

Bri
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« Reply #32 on: August 24, 2004, 02:38:00 AM »
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I think Bri, he would be better to first buy a 5 quid cable before purchasing a new TV


yeah , i think he will get a nice picture but it wont solve his problems, i'm 99% sure of that.

Bri
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« Reply #33 on: August 24, 2004, 04:14:00 AM »
well i've ordered the joytech essentials pack, and as well as an rgb cable, it comes with a controller, extensions cable for controller, cd/dvd rack and cd/dvd case. all for 18 pounds, so if the rgb cable don't fix my problem, then i'll start messing with the 8th pin thing that you guys mentioned. btw there is a separate channel for rgb, so i don't know if this makes a difference. it could just be the 'AV' channel that doesn't handle 60hz, you never know.
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« Reply #34 on: August 25, 2004, 03:28:00 AM »
ok it has arrived. two days is fairly reasonable delivery lol.

anyway, i plugged in the new rgb scart and fired up the xbox, changed to 60hz mode in tHc (which is the same as MS dash btw) and everything seems ok. after a while of testing i came to the conclusion that PAL 60hz mode is now fixed, it doesn't go off the screen. However all NTSC games and applications now go off the screen. So my problem is semi-solved. Can anyone explain this for me?
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« Reply #35 on: August 25, 2004, 04:59:00 AM »
QUOTE (fahrenheit @ Aug 21 2004, 01:07 AM)
Are you even reading my posts??? dry.gif

The cables performance is ordinary! which means not great, so so, middle of the road. It also has an S-Video cable permanently attached that is complete rubbish, its attached at the xbox end of the cable and being 2 metres long tends to lay on the ground and get in the way. The optical port is also attached at the Xbox end of the plug, which means that you have further to run an optical cable to a receiver than say a cable with a breakout box like the MS one. But most annoying is the fact that you cannot have the SCART cable and S-Video cable hooked up at the same time, even if they were hooked up to two different TV's and one was turned off, they still interfere with each other.

I own the Joytech SCART cable and I own another SCART cable that is a clone of the MS cable and I can say don't bother with the Joytech cable, there is better cheaper alternatives.

However Joytech make another product that you must have, its a "mult-scart thingy" as you say, I have my two Xboxs, PS2 and Gamecube hooked-up to it and it has a remote control to swtich between the different inputs, and it is excellent.

http://www.joytech.n...ct=57&x=22&y=10

What is wrong the with quality ohmy.gif ... its second to none imo, the gold connectors and cheap price £10 (amazon) make it better than the MS one.
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« Reply #36 on: August 25, 2004, 06:01:00 AM »
What cable do you use ?? ... and is the optical cable that bad ?? Does the optical cable make that much of a difference to the audio quality ?
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« Reply #37 on: August 25, 2004, 07:21:00 AM »
ok disregard my last post. it seems that i was mistaken and pal60 does not work at all. i will have to live with pal50 i guess.
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« Reply #38 on: August 25, 2004, 07:24:00 AM »
oh and the cheap scart included in the essentials pack, not the AV, the RGB only one, is fairly decent i must say. to me it appears slightly more blurred than before now, but that's probably because i'm not used to a good picture though lol.
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« Reply #39 on: August 25, 2004, 09:36:00 AM »
Just been reading through this thread. Buy a Panasonic TV it will support all the modes you need. Had to laugh at the repeat mentions for gold plated scart plugs. Its a sales gimmick. won't make squat difference and I can show you on a scope the output siganal from the dvd or xbox and the input inside the tV. think about it the tV has not got gold plated pins on its scart socket. You never said what make and mode l the tV was? I am just interested cos if there is an option code that can be changed in the service menu I can give you the details of how to do this.
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« Reply #40 on: August 25, 2004, 09:58:00 AM »
i don't know how to access my service menu. my tv is relatively unheard of brand which is called Watson. I don't think they even have a website lol.
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« Reply #41 on: August 25, 2004, 03:54:00 PM »
Just for the record, I have the Joytech lead that is both a RGB SCART and SVHS + Audios and Optical out and the quality is top notch. No bleeding, electrical distortion or dullness and its running through a X1 Projector giving a 2m picture via the S-Video. Optical sound is fine too! Highly recommended, however is anybody aware of the availability of the HD pack in the UK as I wish to upgrade but cant find anyone selling it.

Cheers
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« Reply #42 on: August 25, 2004, 04:18:00 PM »
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Watson. I don't think they even have a website lol.

Its a vestel chassis set normally found in the supermarkets sometimes branded as Bush or Alba. The chassis will be an AK19.
I can tell you how to enter the service mode on this but unfortunately it will not help as there is no option to give the modes you want. One of the poor designs on this chassis is poor aspect correction which will not be helping.
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« Reply #43 on: August 25, 2004, 04:43:00 PM »
I'm having the same joytech cable and it might be bad desinged the picture is great! The extra stuff is really nice if you take the xbox to a frend w/h RGB Scart
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« Reply #44 on: August 26, 2004, 12:28:00 AM »
I have tried both the MS and Joytech cables and I fail to see/hear any difference in the quality. Though I will agree the the s-video cables do look a little flimsey.
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