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Mr Ed

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« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2004, 12:00:00 AM »

QUOTE (irfan @ Aug 8 2004, 11:43 PM)
DLPs are pretty widely availbale in stores these days, you realyl need to check them out, they are pretty amazing and are all digital, no burn ins.. and the viewing angles are getting better... i dont even know why passive LCDs were brought in this convo since they arent really sold these days...

but for ur price range, i think u need to atleats LOOK at a dlp RPTV

Just for the record, the KDF-60XBR950 is an LCD rear projection and was sitting next to a 61" Samsung DLP and looked a lot better.  Most LCDs have trouble with blacks not looking dark enough but this one didn't.  IMHO this is the best HDTV on the market under $5,000 right now.  Don't count out LCD.

BTW don't know what you mean about passive LCDs in HDTVs.  I don't think anyone is using passive LCDs in HDTVs.  The LCDs they use in HDTVs are active.

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« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2004, 11:05:00 AM »

I've never heard of this brand before but the product *sounds* cool:

Optoma RD50 (50" DLP w/ vga input)

http://www.dtvcity.c...ptoma-rd50.html

the brightness and contrast seems to be above the rest as well.

they talk a good game too:

http://www.optomatv....a_Advantage.asp
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« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2004, 12:33:00 PM »

A little info on the Optoma TV's:

It sounds like a good set, but the current RD50 and RD65 models are based on the HD2 chipset.  The toshiba I linked to previously is based on the HD2+ chipset (next gen).  The HD2+ has a 7 segment color wheel that helps with "dithering".  There is a RD50-A and RD65-A models due out in oct/nov that will feature HD2+ chipsets.

HD2+ & VGA inputs would be killer.
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Mr Ed

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« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2004, 06:19:00 PM »

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Mr Ed

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« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2004, 10:02:00 PM »

QUOTE (XboxforU @ Aug 9 2004, 09:40 PM)
and the one that isnt crap is 1080i(enter the matrix)

That's funny, I think that game is crappy.  biggrin.gif

Amped 2 is probably my favorite HD enabled game.  beerchug.gif

But like I said before, you're entitled to your wrong opinions.  cool.gif
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« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2004, 07:39:00 AM »

I think it would be a big mistake to get an HDTV today without 720p support.  I wouldn't waste my money on something without it.
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« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2004, 12:06:00 PM »

why u guys looking at dlp technology...a freaking color disc ...I had a dlp projector and it wasnt bad but it cost a ton of money.  If you gonna spend that much money why not go with the safer and in my opinion better looking lcd technology...DLP is still relatively new.
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« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2004, 01:15:00 PM »

smile.gif ... and the picture quality from it is AMAZING, and it was only  1169.  of course this isnt practical for daily viewing , but its not my TV set anyways.  

Are you really going to use A PC on ur DLP that much anyways?  i guess if u play games on it, but most likely u will not use it to surf the web, etc, email, instant messaging... i personally dont like everyone in the room staring at what im typing.

the 7 segment color wheel should eliminate any chance of seeing the rainbow effect.  and remember the higher resolution in the chip, the closer u can sit without seeing the screendoor... but the older chip still could be terrific and now somewhat cheaper.   like comparing a 2005 porsche 911 to a 2002... they are both still excellent even if the newer one is better.

but before you purchase, LOOK AT THE ** NON-HDTV ** PICTURE!!! the internal doubler verywell could suck and non HDTV programming could look terrible.  do any of those models offer a faroudja DCDi?  faroudja makes good doublers (im no expert, its really the onyl brand i am familiar with)...  a poor doubler can ruin an great TV.. my projector has a crappy doubler built in so normal tv looks not so good.. whereas the infocus X1 had a faroudja and normal TV was much more bearable.

Dont buy into the "everything will be HD in 2 years" crap... they said that 5 years ago any here in columbus we have abotu 5 channels in HD, and about 500 without.  its a long time coming, so make sure normal TV looks good enough for u since u will be living with it for a long long time.
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« Reply #23 on: August 11, 2004, 07:20:00 PM »

What do you guys think of the 42" plasma EDTV.

How do they do at scaling HDTV / PC resolutions.  I know you loose some picture but is it that noticable?

For less than $3000 are these a good value?
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« Reply #24 on: August 11, 2004, 08:29:00 PM »

QUOTE (mc_365 @ Aug 11 2004, 07:23 PM)
What do you guys think of the 42" plasma EDTV.

I would never spend more than $1,000 on a TV that didn't do actual HDTV.  Just my opinion.
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« Reply #25 on: August 11, 2004, 10:13:00 PM »

If you really only have one plan for the PC input to hookup online xbox play, then sacrifice some video quality and just use an s-video or composite output.. ya it will look like ultracrap but you just need to be able to navigate a few screens anyways.

also, yes the CRT monitor would be a big space taker, but that route will also save you some money if the toshiba is priced higher because of it.  id be willing to save a few hundred and use a monitor... or hell for less than a couple hundred you can get a laptop on ebay... youll solve your problem and still have a functional laptop.

but if you really want the VGA input then go for it if it suits your needs. the picture-beside-picture could be neat, but thats not offered on the toshiba is it?


i wouldnt pay to get an EDTV set... especially not close to 3000 dollars... EDTV is jsut a progressive capable TV set... so it woudl be good for dvds i guess and never plan to get HDTV in the next 5-8 years...id hope you plan to keep a 3000 dollar set for atleast that long...  your 3000 is going towards the plasma technology, and i think you will be better off with a thin LCD/DLP RPTV with HD capabilities.  and from the front, unknowing people will think you got a true LCD screen or a plasma anyways:)

EDTV makes sense for some people... since 480p tv is still really sharp, and HD DVDs will not be mainstream in the near future anyways... but i personally prefer HDTV since im a sucker for new tech.
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« Reply #26 on: August 12, 2004, 09:12:00 AM »

Well I ask because I see 42" Plasma EDTV for $2500 and then 42" Plasma HDTV for $6000.  At the store its hard to distinguish which has the better picture becuase they all are sharing the same crappy signal.  Plasma EDTV can display Higher resolution, they'er just not native.  Just like LCD monitors for the PC they have an optimal resolution but will display others.

So I guess I should of asked is, if the increase in picture quality justifies the
$3500 price difference?
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« Reply #27 on: August 12, 2004, 10:31:00 AM »

QUOTE (mc_365 @ Aug 12 2004, 09:15 AM)
Well I ask because I see 42" Plasma EDTV for $2500 and then 42" Plasma HDTV for $6000.  At the store its hard to distinguish which has the better picture becuase they all are sharing the same crappy signal.  Plasma EDTV can display Higher resolution, they'er just not native.  Just like LCD monitors for the PC they have an optimal resolution but will display others.

So I guess I should of asked is, if the increase in picture quality justifies the
$3500 price difference?

Well sounds like everyone agrees the answer is NO.

I'll tell you locally I've seen EDTV plasmas that looked aweful with an HD signal.  I mean worse than the cheapest rear projection, so just because it's plasma doesn't mean it will look good.  And if it's EDTV it probably means it WONT.  rolleyes.gif
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« Reply #28 on: August 12, 2004, 10:57:00 AM »

In my opinion nothing comes close to a CRT Front View HDTV ( I own one) but the size makes them inpracticle for my bedroom.
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