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Xeero

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« on: October 03, 2002, 10:16:00 PM »
ISObuster can handle these.  www.isobuster.com
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opjose

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« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2002, 11:05:00 PM »
Heh, not if it's a GI image of an Xbox disk!
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Xeero

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« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2002, 09:37:00 AM »
True.  Even MS puts their game images into iso format to pre-master them.  But how would someone create a GI image of an xbox game?  Any tools that compile files into XFS work only with ISO.
My guess is that the GI is an image of a UDF data disc and not a genuine XFS image.  If that's the case, isobuster can view the UDF files, but won't extract them unless it's registered.  So you can either burn the image with recordnow max or you can register <cough>*crack*</cough> isobuster.
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opjose

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« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2002, 05:04:00 PM »
ISO buster does extract if not registered btw.

I'll bet someone created a GI image of a regular XISO type backup.

He'll be unable to view the files with ISOBuster because it cannot handle Xbox image disks which are not in UDF.

He can try, but his best bet will be to burn it first.

He's probably talking about the one football game that was "dropped" this way.
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Xeero

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« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2002, 05:29:00 PM »
ISOBuster will extract if unregistered, except for UDF, as I said.
How would someone create a GI image in XFS?  No tool capable of creating GI images is capable of doing so with XFS.  Given the tools available now, it's impossible to do, as far as I know.  The only reasonable answer is that it is a GI image of a UDF layout.  Again, because extraction requires that you register ISOBuster, my recommendation is still to burn it.  However, if you want to play it off the HD, you're left with no choice.
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opjose

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« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2002, 06:31:00 PM »
Ok you are making a few erroneous assumptions.

MS DOES NOT put their images into ISO format at all. The developer sends the final tape to MS. MS finalizes it and the duplication goes directly from the tape to the mastering machine. The Xbox disks are not ISO compliant at all. If you could read the raw blocks out, we wouldn't be bothering with MOD chips at all.

The GI image he is talking about is an "image" of an XFS disk.

It's simple to create. You burn the original ISO to a CD. It will be in the XFS (non pc-readable format) as is the original disk.

You can then make a "RAW" GI image of this disk which is a block for block copy.

The end result is that ISOBUSTER will be unable to read the disk.

I've been thru this with the title he is trying to work on (one of the Football games I believe). I HAVE TRIED ALL OF THIS.

It is not in UDF format and ISO buster will not extract it.

I've tried with the registered version.
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« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2002, 06:36:00 AM »
Stuff the topic.Hey opjose,how much time do you spend on these forum?
As you have about 982 posts so you must spend too much time here so it seens that you don't have a life laugh.gif
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opjose

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« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2002, 06:59:00 AM »
QUOTE (Hammy @ Oct 7 2002, 12:36 PM)
Stuff the topic.Hey opjose,how much time do you spend on these forum?
As you have about 982 posts so you must spend too much time here so it seens that you don't have a life laugh.gif

                                    No sadly I don't have a life these past two months.

Hopefully that will change soon. A ressurection is in order.

Just as soon as I hit that 1000th post!
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Xeero

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« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2002, 12:30:00 AM »
QUOTE (opjose @ Oct 7 2002, 12:31 AM)
Ok you are making a few erroneous assumptions.

MS DOES NOT put their images into ISO format at all. The developer sends the final tape to MS. MS finalizes it and the duplication goes directly from the tape to the mastering machine.

                                    There are several methods that developers can utilize to submit xbox games.  One of them is via tape, another is via DVD-R backup - that being ISO.  GDFimage is MS's pre-master utility by identification: "MS ® Xbox Game Disc Premastering Utility".  Developers DO put games the games in ISO.  The issue was that this is far and away the more "official" format between ISO and GI.
However, you did point out that they could have copied the original to the PC, then made an XFS ISO, then burned to CD/DVD, then made a raw GI image.  This makes no fucking sense, but that's beside the point.  I'll give you a point for that one.  :-)
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opjose

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« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2002, 02:25:00 AM »
AFAIK GDFImage doesn't create ISO compliant images which ISO buster in turn could handle... unless they are UDF?

Note: I really haven't used it.

But as for the weird Xbox>PC>ISO>DVD>GI Image I believe that is exactly what happened. Or at least that's what I saw on one of the posted football games.

I went rather nuts trying to figure out what was going on... heh.

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« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2002, 12:42:00 PM »
just out of curiousity, try renaming to .iso and using a xfs extractor such as xiso? Prolly won't work, but can't hurt to try.
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opjose

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« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2002, 06:08:00 PM »
QUOTE (WiKKiD @ Oct 8 2002, 06:42 PM)
just out of curiousity, try renaming to .iso and using a xfs extractor such as xiso? Prolly won't work, but can't hurt to try.

                                    Sigh, read the posts before you post.
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Xeero

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« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2002, 09:51:00 PM »
Yeah, GI images are definitely not ISO compliant.  They're completely different images.  I'm not disagreeing with that.  I just know that ISObuster can open them  (or claims to be able to).  But again, it's a moot point if it is an XFS image because ISObuster would choke on it anyway.
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opjose

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« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2002, 01:40:00 AM »
QUOTE (Xeero @ Oct 10 2002, 03:51 AM)
Yeah, GI images are definitely not ISO compliant.  They're completely different images.  I'm not disagreeing with that.  I just know that ISObuster can open them  (or claims to be able to).  But again, it's a moot point if it is an XFS image because ISObuster would choke on it anyway.

                                    Exactly.

That's what brought up the point of dispute. This is an unusual image in that someone reimaged a disk in .GI format.

Weird.
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