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basso4735

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« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2004, 11:38:00 AM »
when i installed my X3, i used a different Lframe(d0) point that the tut showed. Will cutting that trace to the lframe shown here and adding the resistor still work?
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« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2004, 12:59:00 PM »
QUOTE (Morglum @ Nov 14 2004, 04:15 PM)
Hmm this is interesting, i seem to recall that both Xenium and SmartXX modchips only pulsed the D0 & LFRAME anyway to reduce stress such as this. Will have to see if any of the members from either team will comment on this matter.

Unfortunately I don't have these modchips to verify if this is true or not.  If someone with either of these chips could boot their xbox and measure the voltage on LFRAME once it is running and post the results it would be great (3.3V = OK, 0V = Problem).

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when i installed my X3, i used a different Lframe(d0) point that the tut showed. Will cutting that trace to the lframe shown here and adding the resistor still work?

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just to clarify, do i still take the same lframe point to grnd. ie the left hand red point(left side of resistor.) in your pic. thx.


Yes, you can connect LFRAME to the left hand side of the resistor (the LFRAME point shown in xecuter install diagrams) and cut the track on the top of the motherboard.
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« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2004, 06:17:00 PM »
bump see what modchip devs say about this
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« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2004, 07:10:00 PM »
I went to radioshack and picked up a 1/2 watt 680 ohm resistor with 5% tolerance. Will this work? And also, does it matter which way the resistor is facing when u solder it in. Sorry if these questions are n00bish.
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« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2004, 06:53:00 AM »
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I went to radioshack and picked up a 1/2 watt 680 ohm resistor with 5% tolerance. Will this work?

Yes this will work. It does not matter which way round you solder it.
I would probably solder a small piece of kynar wire on each end of the resistor, insulate it and solder the kynar to the pads. Stick the resistor to the board with hot glue so it does not flap about, if you use this method. It puts less stress on the solder pads on the board
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« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2004, 01:06:00 PM »
QUOTE (catdog2 @ Nov 15 2004, 09:25 PM)
3.3V is the normal voltage with no chip.  What I am interested in is whether the modchip is pulling this down to 0V - so yes the chip needs to be installed and running.

Ok...If I get bored tomorrow I'll rip it open and measure...  smile.gif
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« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2004, 01:23:00 PM »
QUOTE (Morglum @ Nov 14 2004, 04:15 PM)
i seem to recall that both Xenium and SmartXX modchips only pulsed the D0 & LFRAME anyway to reduce stress such as this.

I remember reading something about this also.  It was specificaly for the Xenium though.
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nebur

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« Reply #22 on: November 17, 2004, 09:53:00 AM »
anymore input on this?
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pedro

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« Reply #23 on: November 18, 2004, 07:24:00 AM »
I recently did an install for a guy using an x2.6 on a v1.6 xbox.
do I need to have the guy bring his xbox back in so I can do this to it?

and all I do is solder the resistor and cut the trace?
sounds easy enough.

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« Reply #24 on: November 18, 2004, 09:45:00 AM »
well the smartxx chips now come with a 1.6 lpc rebuild kit...when i get my rebuild kit in ill let you know if it can fix this or not
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« Reply #25 on: November 18, 2004, 11:10:00 AM »
Great research, this will definitely save many XBoxes smile.gif. I love my 1.0.

EDIT: However, as this is a great method, I do remember reading an older manual from SmartXX that seemed to draw current and ground it while simultaneously completing the same result. It seems that have the current withdrawal featured in this new device that you can order from them for the bottom side of the 1.6 motherboard.

See it here: http://smartxx.com/m...eader_16_v2.php

SmartXX developers truely are geniuses. As you can see, this device interacts with the LPC, which means the data and current from the board are flowing through the LFRAME quicksodler device as well as the smartxx chip. It also seems that the device utilizes one extra point on the LPC, the name of which is not specified. However, I'm sure you have already, but be sure to contact Team SmartXX and see what they think on your experiment. They seem to be the more intelligent of the modchip developing teams. I ahve a SmartXX, and it's easy to tell they worked hard and made a truely amazing piece of hardware and an astounding package of software.

Anyway, keep going with this.

EDIT: Nevermind what I said about the extra LPC point utilization. I rechecked the image and it's obvious to tell that there is no lead on the PCB. I just have to wonder what that point does. It's a possibility that it makes it easier for Live to get data from the PCB.
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« Reply #26 on: November 18, 2004, 02:57:00 PM »
Just done this to a couple of 1.6 boxes and they work fine with the mod done.
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« Reply #27 on: November 18, 2004, 03:47:00 PM »
i have done this on 2 boxes and it works great
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« Reply #28 on: November 18, 2004, 04:48:00 PM »
Just saw the diagram link,sorry
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« Reply #29 on: November 18, 2004, 07:20:00 PM »
this is good stuff.  I just got my 1.6 today and ordered an X3.  I'm definitely going to use the resistor as I don't want to ruin this new toy.  One question though:
I was comparing the image originally posted (top of the very first post in this thread) with the URL=http://http://www.teamxecuter.com/x3/tutorials/x3pin16.htm]X3 install tutorial for 1.6 pinheader[/URL](had to save the original 'resistor install' image local, and flip it upside down to match the two up), and I noticed that there is an extra LPC connection on the resistor install pic.

If you are looking at the resistor install image "non-flipped" its in the second row
five down and runs almost straight to the left.

Can anyone tell me what this connection is?  Does not having this connection affect the X3 install?

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