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Aislin

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« Reply #45 on: November 19, 2004, 03:13:00 PM »
Excellent thread. Bump. Not that it needs it. smile.gif
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jonarvid

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« Reply #46 on: November 20, 2004, 04:45:00 AM »
When this topic has been raised on the forums for Xecuter and SmartXX, it has been flamed or ignored:

Team Xecuter

SmartXX

DOes anyone know anything more? At least posters on the SmartXX forum think the SmartXX pulses the D0, but noone seems to know for sure.
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« Reply #47 on: November 20, 2004, 06:21:00 AM »
So a few modchip manufacturers have taken a page out of the republican play book..smile.gif  Seriously though, you can't overpower a cmos chip 15X over and expect it to last long..  Suddenly lost a bit of respect for those teams, but I'm not a chip buyer anyways..smile.gif
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« Reply #48 on: November 20, 2004, 07:40:00 AM »
QUOTE (Aislin @ Nov 20 2004, 12:16 AM)
Excellent thread. Bump. Not that it needs it. smile.gif

does it seem that anyone cares`?  dry.gif   buzz of punk.

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GRIlVlLOCK

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« Reply #49 on: November 20, 2004, 07:42:00 AM »
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« Reply #50 on: November 20, 2004, 08:05:00 AM »
i have been waiting for that smartxx reply for a while now too!
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« Reply #51 on: November 20, 2004, 11:38:00 AM »
QUOTE (jonarvid @ Nov 20 2004, 10:15 AM)
Just out of interest, and since im no electronics whiz, is it the xbox or the modchip that will "fry"?  blink.gif

It is the xbox that will fry..
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« Reply #52 on: November 20, 2004, 02:24:00 PM »
you did exactly the right thing posting this. i think it is very important to bring things like this to the attention of others. Its not like you have just pointed out a problem in the making, you have provided a workable mod to get round it.
In no way can this be seen as a pop at any chip or any install. What it does do is give installers an informed choice, one which I shall certainly carry on following.
Thank You
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Overfur

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« Reply #53 on: November 20, 2004, 03:06:00 PM »
well .. yes of course..first have u tried to check the tangasized vector cables of the second one?
anyone tried v2.0 in a GT? Nice screen i said and sat down. hmm.. at 6pm i left my room. Then i ate something.
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Overfur

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« Reply #54 on: November 20, 2004, 03:12:00 PM »
QUOTE (jROC99 @ Nov 21 2004, 12:13 AM)
I agree that cutting that trace near the chip is dangerous. Especially for the non tech-savy people.

My opinion would be to get something like a fine dremel tool.

This is what i have and ..it's what i plan to use when trying this fix.

jROC

eeeeejjoooooooooooohh..         teh m45t4. Do u think my colorbred is red?
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« Reply #55 on: November 20, 2004, 07:08:00 PM »
I put a cheapmod on a 1.6, i lifted the Xyclops leg from lframe, and ran the lframe trace to the lframe pin on the lpc, is this ok? do  i need to put a resistor in or cause the lframe goes to cheapmod and the lifted Xyclops leg (i have grounded)
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Xconsole

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« Reply #56 on: November 20, 2004, 07:18:00 PM »
The cheapmod uses the Lframe like it is supposed to be used, so there is no need for a resistor.

The leg you lifted on the Xyclops other hand is probably not happy with floating in mid air, so it should be grounded.

An alternative way is not to lift the leg, just cut the Lframe-trace (as in the images above, in the middle of the small bit in the corner of the xyclops), and solder the CheapMod-Lframe to the lower point on the cut trace.

The top point is connected to the leg on the Xyclops, and also to a pull-up resistor on the underside of the board, so if you cut the trace, there is no need to ground anything, and with the cheapmod, there is no need to use any resisitor.
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« Reply #57 on: November 20, 2004, 08:56:00 PM »
Hi all,

this issue seems to concern even the most experienced MODders...

... and to think i was about to install an Aladdin cuz i had to cut the trace with
a cheapmod...  

BUT NOW, cutting that trace is within the protocol no matter what ModChip i use..or almost !

most confusing indeed ... what'll they find next month on these newer chips and the 1.6 Xboxes intrigues me more than the current issue since the the latter is beeing dealt with!!

For the same reasons i buy life insurance... i think i'll go for safer/cheapmod.

I wrote safer cuz it's got the longest track record and older xboxes that houses them are still running o.k..

i'd rather install an extra switch to toggle between BootChips, than have to wait and see how the dealers reacts to this bug.. i wanta mod that box soon if you know what i mean LOL...

most revealing thread indeed..

PS: The dealers reaction in addressing this issue (lol) reminds me of the time
the satellite signal was lost one night for all DSSCam owners, and how the DSS Revolution Team just disapeared from whatever thread that posted the issue..

soon, we couldn't find them anywhere on the net !!

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TabRNak

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« Reply #58 on: November 20, 2004, 11:49:00 PM »
yes that's why i wrote >almost< when refering to protocols with cutting the trace...

you wouldn't know of a reliable Canadian dealer that has the 'ice' in stock would you.  biggrin.gif
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« Reply #59 on: November 21, 2004, 05:41:00 AM »
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Just use xenium ice aparently unaffected by this issue.


The xenium (not ice, clone, hehe) I examined pulled D0 low for about 10 seconds and I would tend to agree this is more acceptable. I don't like it as much as I like my method but my method is new and basicly untested. One interesting thing with my 020-A protypes is that by without changing any code and just changing slew rates, encoding, hold times etc I cant get a prototype that's 100% reliable with my D0 disable method yet frags on the old 'ground D0 out in CPLD code' method or even D0 grounded to the side frame. The really weird part this is just as true on the 1.0 test box as it is on the 1.6.
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