He has him as his ref because infern08 bought from him an XBox for $50, yes $50 for a working XBox. I also bought one as he had 2 for sale. This infern08 claims to be a 14 year old and he says he deals in high-dollar stuff. I talked to him a lot of times but in no way does he seem to be 14, the way he talks and reacts to messages. But i could be wrong. If you paid by Paypal you can file for a claim. Also I gave you the police number for the local sherriff in his area. This "deal" has been going for a long time and I personally advised him to call Police a while ago. Lets hope this young man gets his $700 back or was it $500. Either way thats a lot of moolah to swallow and needless to say the police will definetely help as I was helped by the police in the IL to track down a guy who ripped me off of $400 for a laptop(I live in NY), the Deputy over there has requested a warrant for his arrest and I'm waiting further updates. I hope redneck here gets his money back. Contact me if you want the phone number again by the way. So please if you bought a crystal from infern08 come forward and post your impressions with the buyer because according t his BST he needed atleast 10 buyers to have sold the crystal for $300 or so.