Topic: Did You Buy The Xbox360 Hd-dvd Addon? (Read 1469 times)

THAbomb82 · « **Reply #60 on:** December 01, 2006, 10:57:00 AM »

why gamble on somthing you have no say in what so ever.
When the big sudio's make up there mind to go on this HD trip with one of the players then I will make up my mind..

But for now I'm happy playing my DVD on my 30" HD plasma.....

Zoopster · « **Reply #61 on:** December 01, 2006, 12:08:00 PM »

I just got a new Samsung LS-N4696 television. LCD, 1080p, 46-inch. This may come as a shock to you guys, but this TV supports 1080p via a component cable connection. I am sure other new ones do as well, though older ones probably do not.

So now I am enjoying X360 games and HD DVD playback in full 1080p, and man it looks awesome. I don't recommend VGA at this time... the picture is washed out and too bright, with very poor contrast (known issue I guess). Component is the way to go.

troyBORG · « **Reply #62 on:** December 02, 2006, 09:14:00 AM »

QUOTE(LumpKin666 @ Nov 23 2006, 06:31 AM)

No - not until they start carrying just the drive for $100 or less. The stupid $200 bundle is a waste.

Look at how much a stand alone HD-DVD player is. And then tell me you don't think this is an awsome price

SpikeMage · « **Reply #63 on:** December 03, 2006, 01:54:00 AM »

Id buy one if I had an HD tv

PM me if youve got an extra 42" 1080p laying around.

sweetsinsemilla · « **Reply #64 on:** December 03, 2006, 02:03:00 PM »

blu-ray, bomb.

8-layer 200gb discs, bomb.

support next generaTIVE ideas, bomb bomb.

richto · « **Reply #65 on:** December 04, 2006, 03:59:00 AM »

QUOTE(avatar1976 @ Nov 24 2006, 10:42 PM)

My god, you guys are right, the HDDVD playback downscales the audio to DD5.1 no matter what. WTF?

So this now means standard def DVDs are going to have better audio on the 360 then their HD equivalent Microsoft are you F@&$ING STUPID!!?!? What so those three PPC cores aren't capable of not touching the audio signal and just parsing it through to the fibre optic output.

Quote from Teamxbox:
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However, rather than producing a Dolby TRUE HD or Dolby Digital Plus surround sound, the audio is mixed down to Dolby Digital 5.1 with the Xbox 360 HD-DVD.
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Read the whole review here: http://hardware.team...-DVD-Player/p4/

This is being addressed very shortly in an update that will also include DTS support.

nb - HD DVD is currently outselling Poo Ray 2:1

And the guy who saying Blu Ray is 'slightly better' must be visually impared. The quality of Blu Ray output is noticeably inferior to HD DVD on the current players / movies.

QUOTE(blckwdw1986 @ Nov 30 2006, 12:51 AM)

I have a Panasonic HD Front Projector and regular movies look amazing compared to the 27" JVC tube I had before, especially since my screen is now 72". I am pleased with the 480p movies at the moment, but I would like to see the 360 upconvert/upscale movies to 720p or 1080i. I will be one who waits for the war to be over, my vote is for HD-DVD. Affordable, practical, and usefull. The only problem I see is that the companis backing BD are the more consumer brands and such. We shall see. I don't really care who wins, as long as someone does and the prices drop and movies are widely available.

Why on earth would you need it to upscale? Your Plama / LCD panel is already perfectly suited to upscale movies to the native resolution of your display.

You dont need an external box probably making a worse job of it.

QUOTE(VeNgE_DuDe @ Nov 30 2006, 12:53 PM)

HD-DVD and BLU-RAY as far as set-top players display the same picture in 1080p. The format o the disc is the relivency, not the data that is on it- it is the same. Xbox360 can't show the true HD without 1080p support- which does not work with 360 right now?

HDMI plug is coming for 360, but will it be digital?

Blu-Ray only offers more storage than HD-DVD, and no movie made to date, even fills up a HD-DVD.

I picked the wrong option, I will not get the External player for 360. It's only 500.00 for a Low End PS3 -vs- 800.00 for just a set-top Blu-Ray player = spend the 300.00 more than the HD-DVD player for 360, and get a PS3. You get the Blu-Ray player, plus a game console- win win scenario. Even a set-top HD-DVD player is 400 to 500.00 + 100 = PS3 for me.

Xbox 360 CAN already display 1080P - just get the latest dashboard update that has been out for sometime.

HDMI is ONLY digital. The picture quality is no better than the perfectly adequate component video outputs that you aready have. The only advantage of HDMI is fewer cables. However it adds DRM :-(

Storage wise, HD DVD is the winner -
Dual layer Blu Ray disk = 50GB
Triple layer HD DVD Disk = 45 GB PLUS you get 9 GB of normal DVD on the Flip side = 54 GB....

$500 for a PS3 and you are stuck with a Betamax V2 Poo Ray player and a console with inferior graphics power to the Xbox 360. As can be plainly seen from Ridge Racer / Need For Speed. Not to mention that it runs Linux so you probably need most of the hard disk free for all the security patches it will constantly be downloading...

STEVEHABS · « **Reply #66 on:** December 04, 2006, 07:01:00 AM »

richto hd dvd and blue ray titles looks pretty much the same they use the same codecs and are taken from the same master.im guessing you are an hd dvd fanboy/xbox360 fanboy

richto · « **Reply #67 on:** December 04, 2006, 08:33:00 AM »

QUOTE(STEVEHABS @ Dec 4 2006, 02:08 PM)

richto hd dvd and blue ray titles looks pretty much the same they use the same codecs and are taken from the same master.im guessing you are an hd dvd fanboy/xbox360 fanboy

No they dont - try watching them on the same screen side by side. Blu Ray is a NOTICEABLY worse picture - so quite significantly inferior.

This is largely because BluRay uses an inferior CODEC - MPEG2. Versus VC1 and MPEG4 AVC in HD DVD.

However even when this is not the case, current HD DVD players still outperform Blu Ray as regards picture quality. See http://origin.arstec...60801-7399.html

Occasional compression artifacts and brightness issues also led the site to crown HD DVD the winner. "In our first head-to-head comparison, we found the HD DVD to be superior," wrote Peter Bracke. "The unfortunate cropping of the Blu-ray image, coupled with more noticeable compression artifacts and an overall darker cast, can't compete with the more consistently pleasing presentation of the HD DVD."

See also http://www.hometheat...y_vs_hddvd.html

Not to mention that for the PS3 in particular, Sony has confirmed that the PS3 has no internal scaler as part of its hardware that can upconvert 480p/i or 720p content (whether a standard-def DVD or a PlayStation game) to 1080p/i. That leads to two separate issues. First, if you have a 1080i-only HDTV, it is up to your monitor to upconvert the 480p/i or 720p output from the PS3 to 1080i. Unlike with the Xbox 360. Far more problematic is if you set the PS3 to 1080 mode to interface with your 1080p/i-only monitor, the PS3 can only downconvert 720p content to 480p. There are a wealth of 1080i sets out there that will not accept a 720p signal, so if you are the owner of one of them, you're going to be confined to 480 downconverts of most PS3 launch games, as the vast majority are 720p only. That's a big drawback for the PS3 right out of the gate. Why Sony just didn't build in 1080 upconversion into the console is a bit of a mystery. A fix might be possible via a software update, but as the lack of internal scaling in the PS3 is a hardware issue, that doesn't appear likely.

emuShelly · « **Reply #68 on:** December 04, 2006, 05:59:00 PM »

I'll be waiting for a winner in the format war. Anyone who has taken even Economics 101 knows how foolish it is to choose a side this early in the game. I wish this format war would end quickly, before it gets much further!

pcrat · « **Reply #69 on:** December 05, 2006, 12:35:00 PM »

Im happy with hd dvd..
im not too picky to make it THAT damn crystal clear.

i will upgrade from hd, when they have a movie that plays in mid air and not on a screen. otherwise hell i will just take a pig old shitola on blueray...

next gen counsole will not use cds. other wise its not the next gen lol duh graphics dont count, we all know there making that part better, what about storage,, no more discs.. thats there whole downfall.

Zoopster · « **Reply #70 on:** December 05, 2006, 02:17:00 PM »

QUOTE(avatar1976 @ Nov 24 2006, 02:42 PM)

My god, you guys are right, the HDDVD playback downscales the audio to DD5.1 no matter what. WTF?

So this now means standard def DVDs are going to have better audio on the 360 then their HD equivalent Microsoft are you F@&$ING STUPID!!?!? What so those three PPC cores aren't capable of not touching the audio signal and just parsing it through to the fibre optic output.

Quote from Teamxbox:
=====================================================================
However, rather than producing a Dolby TRUE HD or Dolby Digital Plus surround sound, the audio is mixed down to Dolby Digital 5.1 with the Xbox 360 HD-DVD.
=====================================================================
Read the whole review here: http://hardware.team...-DVD-Player/p4/

Optical and co-ax connections can only handle Dolby Digital and DTS audio. You can't pass DD+, Dolby TrueHD, or DTS-HD through an optical connection. Even if you could, no audio receiver would support it. Those audio codecs are only available with an HDMI connector hooked up to a receiver that can decode the sound, which the 360 doesn't have. So the choice for audio output was really Dolby Digital, DTS, or no audio at all. As a previous poster has said, a dash update will allow HD DVD audio to be output as DTS, which should address sound quality somewhat.

I take it you have a top of the line A/V receiver that has HDMI inputs and can decode/play those new audio codecs? I didn't think so. Sit down.

Zoopster · « **Reply #71 on:** December 05, 2006, 02:27:00 PM »

QUOTE(richto @ Dec 4 2006, 07:40 AM)

No they dont - try watching them on the same screen side by side. Blu Ray is a NOTICEABLY worse picture - so quite significantly inferior.

This is largely because BluRay uses an inferior CODEC - MPEG2. Versus VC1 and MPEG4 AVC in HD DVD.

See my earlier (looong) post. Both Blu-Ray and HD DVD support the same three video codecs. The only issue right now is that Blu-Ray releases are almost entirely MPEG2-HD, while a growing number of HD DVD's are VC-1.

That will change. AVC is also just around the corner for both platforms and that's where the real quality will be seen. However, any comparison right now between releases that aren't even using the same codec is just unfair. I have no doubt (having seen both) that Blu-Ray and HD DVD will both have great picture and sound that will be next to impossible to tell apart from one another. Eventually.

AngelBallz69 · « **Reply #72 on:** December 05, 2006, 06:51:00 PM »

i didnt know they had porn in HD DVD ALREADY LOL in th at case good buy ps3 hello hdDVD ha

Morlok8k · « **Reply #73 on:** December 06, 2006, 08:28:00 PM »

QUOTE(THDVL @ Nov 24 2006, 04:54 PM)

Now I need to find some Hd-dvd pr0n with some hot lesbian action lol!!

while i havent watched HD porn on a HD-DVD or on a BRD, i have seen 1080p lesbian porn straight from the hi-def camera on a PC. close-ups are amazing!

anyways, i plan to get one when more HD-DVDs come out.

DietWedge · « **Reply #74 on:** December 07, 2006, 05:21:00 PM »

I picked one up, just because it seemed like such a great deal. I won't miss the $200 if the HDDVD format goes belly up.

Author Topic: Did You Buy The Xbox360 Hd-dvd Addon? (Read 1469 times)