Ok put everything back in the xbox cases that they came in. My original one, still won't power on. Tried it without the hard drive and disk drive plugged in and still nothing.
Other one I got given the other day, got it past the clock by just holding the buttons down. It does load to the stock dashboard, but everything works extremely slowly. have to hold button and joys down to get things to move. Put a cd in it and it did play it, but was lagging on it. Hard drive is the original drive. Model number on it made me think it was a 80gb. It is a western digital.
So still have one that won't power on, and one that works, but very very slowly. If I can get it working correctly I will want to mod it also, so I can use xbmc and attempt to again get one of them to work wirelessly with my home network so I can media share. Thanks so much for the replies and helping, don't have any local resources.