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[joeblow420]

hey guys, happy halloween!  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/muhaha.gif)
im just curious if anyone has found any other adapters that are working.  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[hangover]

Last year found some green adapters that work fine up to 2tb hdd with a tsop'd console.

[toocko]

I asked nothingupmysleve via pm regarding his post above how he got the adapter to work,the one he bought from e-bay from partsdomyauction if Xbox hdd requires cable select, but this adapter doesn't seem to have this jumper setting as an option. His reply was Only jumper (J1) is on/attached.dunno, it just works .

This post has been edited by toocko: Dec 5 2012, 02:32 AM

[toocko]

Ooops didn't mean to duplicate quote

This post has been edited by toocko: Dec 5 2012, 02:18 AM

[toocko]

Did want to add that the reason I was checking with nothingupmysleve was because I had previously purchased an adapter from deal extreme about 18 months ago and it worked great, then bought another one from them about 6 months later and tried it and it wouldn't work (didn't have a need for the second adapter till now cause I wanted to built second Xbox with 2tb hdd). They changed the configuration on the board so now pins one and three are no longer for cable select. Long story short,after munch trial and error, I can confirm the adapter from deal extreme does work, but you have to now to use the new type 80 pin IDE cable were as before the 40 pin cable that the Xbox comes with could be used. Hope this post helps others.

[hangover]

QUOTE(toocko @ Dec 8 2012, 03:31 AM)

Did want to add that the reason I was checking with nothingupmysleve was because I had previously purchased an adapter from deal extreme about 18 months ago and it worked great, then bought another one from them about 6 months later and tried it and it wouldn't work (didn't have a need for the second adapter till now cause I wanted to built second Xbox with 2tb hdd). They changed the configuration on the board so now pins one and three are no longer for cable select. Long story short,after munch trial and error, I can confirm the adapter from deal extreme does work, but you have to now to use the new type 80 pin IDE cable were as before the 40 pin cable that the Xbox comes with could be used. Hope this post helps others.

 Is it the red revision 1 dx adapter you used ?

[toocko]

Not sure what you mean. It is the one they currently have listed on their site. If you use the hyper link that is listed earlier in this post it will take you to the site. The circuit board is red if that is your question.

[capboy210]

Ive seen this thread for years but it seems no one has a definite answer.

http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=648145

Anyone have a good adapter that works. From some reading it seems the adapter needs a slave option and that it cant be a crappy ebay one. I was thinking about purchasing a 1.5TB hard drive that has a 5900RPM. I guess many times the large capacity hard drives take a long time to spin up so the xbox loads slowly at startup or spits out errors. I also hear that the psu cant handle powering up the hard drive sometimes. So if i get a new "green"   hard drive that claims to cut 48% of power needs then i would suppose this would be beneficial to the xbox.

Does 32k clusters only support 1TB max? i forget the calculations if i would need 64k clusters for my 1.5 TB
Has anyone succesfully used 64k clusters and does it affect performance?

Im looking at these two hard drives... which one would be the best? I have never attempted a sata hdd in an xbox before but my trusty 750GB IDE is filled

option 1:
5900RPM
1.5TB
Segate
3/5 star reviews
"green"
32MB Cache   
Average Latency 5.1ms
109$
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16822148412

option 2:
7200RPM
1.5TB
Segate
4/5 star reviews
"even more green" saves more power
32MB Cache
Average Latency   4.16ms
119$
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16822148337

Current hard drive that works:
750GB Segate barracuda
IDE Ultra ATA100
RPM   7200 RPM
Cache   16MB
Average Latency   4.16ms

It seems as option 2 is more reliable, and faster, but its a 7200 RPM drive and im not sure that thats a good idea with sata. My thinking tells me that both these hard drives are probably faster than what the xbox needs. Someone enlighten me unless someone knows of a good 1TB 1.5TB IDE hard drive. Im not even sure if they exsist and if they are even around anymore if they do exsist. Has anyone used hard drive #2 in a xbox? It seems its very popular with over 1000+ reviews. Im just looking to better my odds with the sata hdd and adapter game.

[capboy210]

whoops to late to edit but i will add that my xbox has an 80-pin IDE cable already and it uses the X3 chip with the latest x3 bios. It looks like WD green drives seem to work good.

[xboxmods2977]

The max size you can get in an IDE HD is 1tb. Total Micro is the only company I could find that makes (or made) them and the drive is (or was) $250+.

My best advice I can give is to hunt down a cheaper 750gb IDE HD.

The one or two specific Sata to IDE adapters that are compatible with the xbox still leave something to be desired. They do not perform well in an xbox but I guess if you don't mind system instability, heftier price tag, slow or delayed boot times, and a just all-around-pain-in-the-ass, go for the 1TB Sata, that is, if you can find one.

[capboy210]

I already own a 750GB hard drive, that uses an IDE interface, i need to upgrade to something larger. I figure if i buy a 1TB hard drive and gain 250~gigs  its not really worth it. Plus its only about an extra 25-30$ to go from a 1TB to a 1.5TB.

Which brand adapters are you talking about? Id like to know. I read about 8-9 pages of the sata adapter thread and it seems that if they are lucky enough to get a hard drive & adapter combo that works, the only performance that is diminished is when the xbox boots up it takes longer. My current hard drive already makes the xbox boot up slow most likely because its full, but regardless that wont bother me.

It seems many people have had success using the WD green series, i figure the PSU can actually handle this hard drive since its 40% less power strain on the PSU than a "non green" hard drive.

I also have been looking at this hard drive, it seems like actually the best choice, im a firm believer in segate products but i know that WD makes decent stuff.

Im thinking of pairing this hard drive:
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16822136351
With this adapter (seems like everyone that used this adapter had a good experience)
http://www.dealextre...ls.dx/sku.12537

[Bomb Bloke]

QUOTE(capboy210 @ Nov 15 2009, 11:31 AM)

Does 32k clusters only support 1TB max? i forget the calculations if i would need 64k clusters for my 1.5 TB

32kb clusters only supports partitions of up to 512gb in size. For anything above that, 64kb clusters must be used, and partitions over 1tb are currently impossible.

So, to stick with the lowest cluster sizes, you'd make one partition just under 1tb (using 64kb clusters), and one partition around 500gb (using 32kb clusters). If you split the space evenly, then both partitions would be using 64kb clusters (as they'd be about 750gb each).

QUOTE(capboy210 @ Nov 15 2009, 11:31 AM)

Has anyone succesfully used 64k clusters and does it affect performance?

They lower the amount of data you can cram onto the drive (larger clusters = more slack space), but they don't affect performance in terms of speed.

Likewise, putting more data on a drive does not slow it down. Fragmentation can cause this, but only under very selective circumstances. Much less often then tech support teams like to imply.

[capboy210]

Okay thanks for the breakdown, If I follow through with this idea ill probably just split the partitions equally. So ill use 2 partitions that are 750 GB @ 64k clusters.

So are you saying that I would gain a minuscule amount of extra data space if i used the one 32k cluster in conjunction with one 64K cluster. Anyone with any other wise words or experience using sata hard drives?

[run088]

Yes make 1 partition less than 512 and use 32k then the rest on g with 64k. This is the most conservative setup for the 1.5tb drive and it works just fine I can attest to that. I have made this setup a number of times with no issues.

But you might as well max it out and get the 2tb drive. This setup also works just fine I have been running it for months. This is also the current maximum our hardware and software will support. F & G running 64k at its upper limit.

The only issue you will have unless it has been fixed is that the newer build of xbpartitioner would freeze on partitions it saw that were bigger than 1tb. To get around this you would have to take the old build that was capped at 32k and format into 2 partitions less than 1tb in size then load up the new version of xbpartitioner and reformat so you could format in 64k. The catch is that when you reformat with the new xbpartitioner that you have to change the partition sizes from what they were when they were formatted with the 32k because if you dont it may not format and you wont know until you pass 512 gigs and start getting data corruption. The best bet is to change the size so you can visually tell that the formatting worked.  if you can see the visual change the formatting should be flawless.

The xbpartitioner builds I am referring to are xbpartitioner 1.0 and version 1.1

I think that the bug was worked out in a beta if I remember correctly but I dont know if it was ever released.

This post has been edited by run088: Nov 15 2009, 11:34 AM

[Bomb Bloke]

QUOTE(run088 @ Nov 15 2009, 06:29 PM)

I think that the bug was worked out in a beta if I remember correctly but I dont know if it was ever released.

It wasn't released. I'm still being lazy.