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[RDC]

They do get crossed, look again.

The inside signal lead of the of the POT go to the outside trace of the other POT, so they are crossed, just no wiring gets crossed, if it's done right. The way your diagram was just had the lines crossed, but if ya look at it ya have the inside lead going to the opposite sides inside lead, which would have resulted in it being SP (if it were on the signal lines instead of the power lines) but also inverted on both axis as the signal lines wouldn't have been rewired properly.

The way you planned to do it (pulling the sticks is how you mentioned it in your PM, 'no trace cutting' it was) needs no trace cutting, you just run the pin from one stick over to the trace of the other, the right hand side pins/trace are the signal ones, but both pins on the right hand side need to be cut as to not make any contact with the traces as they are connected internally on the button. It's pretty much the same as with the POT leads really if you plan to do it by pulling the entire sticks.

Either that or you cut the traces and cross them after the fact and since you have 6 of them I'd need to know the board version of every one to show ya what traces needs to be cut where as well as what TP spots to rewire them to as that can differ from boar version to board version as well and I'm sorry but to be quite frank I'm not the one getting paid to do those things and if you are I'd try earning that money a little bit for a change. There's more than enough info around here to get it done, pretty much all of it in this thread really, so ya have a few options there...

You can use a multimeter and magnifying glass to find that stuff out much faster for yourself or...

Pull the stick and trace it completely out so ya know what goes where or...

Use the pics in the SixAxis controller versions thread to help out with all that or...

Wait until I get around to doing up proper tutorials for all of the different versions of boards that Sony keeps tossing out, which is going to be awhile, if ever, since playing tutorial keep up with them isn't exactly my idea of how to have a good time. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if ya had a board version I haven't seen yet either as many of them as I've run across so far.

[Cuddywifter]

Hi RDC .. I sent you a message .. hoping you can help me out  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[RDC]

QUOTE(Cuddywifter @ Jul 28 2008, 05:09 AM)

Hi RDC .. I sent you a message .. hoping you can help me out  

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[Hifeno]

alright I seem to have to MSU_V2.5 1.05 board.  I was just going to pull sticks and do legacy mod like I do for all 360 controllers and some older ps3 controllers.  I saw where you said that it was not a good idea and now I know why.  They do not come off easy and I do not want to break it.  Could you post a pic of what traces to cut and solder to for legacy mod on this version board.  I am looking all over it and can not seem to trace them at all.  Thanks in advance.

[RDC]

You'll have to pull the POTs on it (the entire stick doesn't have to come out) and do it like the newer DS3 controllers that are mentioned earlier in this thread, cutting traces and rewiring it that way is much more complex than removing the POTs. It's just difficult because the solder is lead free, the ground pins can be difficult at times and if you're not really careful ya can pull out a Via in the process and then you'll be pulling the entire stick or doing trace repair on top of the rewiring, and these controllers have very small traces, so messing up even one Via will have ya in for a real treat to get it fixed back up.

[Hifeno]

Okay but how do I do that without tearing up something.  I noticed in one of your other post you had done that but I can not see how to remove them without tearing up the whole thing.  Got any pics.  Thank you again. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/uhh.gif)

[RDC]

I don't know how to take pics of practice.  I've been doing this kinda thing awhile and just 'know' when it's been heated enough and is ready to be desoldered and out it all comes most of the time, if not ya just hit it again, takes practice is all I can tell ya really.

Best advice I can give ya is if ya don't know how to desolder properly then ya probably shouldn't mess with it, tearing a Via out of one of those things will be a real witch to repair.

Some general tips are to..

Forget using solder braid, use a pump.

Try flowing a little new solder on there, that will mix up with the old and aid in getting it all sucked out of there. Heat it up until ya can just move the lead with the tip of the iron, then get the solder outta there

If ya don't have around a 40w iron or so ya can probably just stick a fork in the project as the grounds take a good bit of heat to get loose and cleaned out. I use a 60w, but I've been at this kinda thing awhile, ya can really torch something if yer not careful with that kinda iron and just as easily pull a Via from using too much heat on it as using too little and not getting all the solder cleaned out before trying to remove the POT.

If ya can't wiggle the lead slightly after desoldering it then it's not desoldered completely and could tear a Via out.

[Hifeno]

Your not telling me anything I do not already know.  I use a pump and know how to desolder and solder very well.  I need to know how to detach the pot from the rest of the stick housing I see clips on both sides but no way to get at them.  I saw you had removed one on another post.  How do I get to those tabs.  I the 4 on each on that need to be removed desoldered completely.  Just the tabs elude me now.

[RDC]

Then maybe you should try asking the correct question, like I'm supposed to know what you're having the issue with when you don't say it, and desoldering it properly is much, much more difficult then just unclipping it from the Stick housing, and that's all there is to it, ya just unclip it, it's not different that an older PS3 controller or 360 POT in that aspect.

This post has been edited by RDC: Nov 15 2008, 01:41 AM

[Hifeno]

I am sorry.  I got them off and it seems to be working fine.  I am testing it on my pc due to the fact I don't have my ps3 yet and when I connect it and go to controller settings it looks as if the left stick is not centered.  I calibrated it and that fixed it but do you think this will pose a problem with the ps3 or does it auto calibrate.  If not is there something I could have done wrong?  I soldered the wires just like your description.  Thank you again for all your help.

This post has been edited by Hifeno: Nov 15 2008, 01:43 AM

[RDC]

Really the only things that could have gone wrong are a short or open somewhere, and if either of those happened the thing would act more than weird enough to let ya know there was an issue with it. It would either be pegged in one direction or just not move in half of one.

I've never seen a controller that was dead center when connected to a PC anyway, they seem to float around some and even after centering it then moving it around it's probably not going to go back to dead center again. I haven't had any issues on the PS3 side after doing one, but you'll know right off if it's going to cause an issue as soon as it's synced to the PS3 and a game is fired up.

[Hifeno]

You were right tested it on a ps3 and it works great.  Thanks for all your help.  I also got my NES Advantage on Xbox 360 working great also.  Thank you very much.

[RDC]

Kool deal, get some pics of that NES ADV up in the 360 section then.

[BiRNiT]

Hi Guys
I have one of the newer DS3 sixaxis controllers, and wondered if there was a tutorial for these to swap the sticks. The board i have is the same as this one:
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?s=&...t&p=4301073
please ignore the wiring as it was not done by me  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Soldering aint a problem for me, been doing it for over 20 years, I find it easier follwing a diagram from someone who has done and tried it before  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

thanx in advance.

[RDC]

QUOTE(BiRNiT @ Dec 27 2008, 09:54 PM)

Hi Guys
I have one of the newer DS3 sixaxis controllers, and wondered if there was a tutorial for these to swap the sticks. The board i have is the same as this one:
http://forums.xbox-s...&...t&p=4301073
please ignore the wiring as it was not done by me  
Soldering aint a problem for me, been doing it for over 20 years, I find it easier follwing a diagram from someone who has done and tried it before  

thanx in advance.

Post #14 and #16 in this thread describe what needs to be done on PS3 controllers with the 4 leg POTs. You'll have to pull the POTs (not the whole stick, just the POTs) bend the signal leads up and and then rewire it to LG, SP or LG-SP. It's kinda 'old school' as it's basically just pulling the part and rewiring it to where ya need, but it doesn't involve trace cutting and on those board versions it's the easiest way to go about it. The only thing to be careful with is make SURE ya have the things desoldered really good before trying to remove them. It doesn't take much to rip out a Via on those boards and then it's way more of a mess to straighten out.

The next one I get to do I'll get some after shots of it to illustrate it a lot better, but ya should be able to get it rewired for SP from the description.