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[semitope]

QUOTE(xbones @ Aug 18 2009, 09:14 PM)

So if you couldn't pirate anything you wouldn't play or buy any games?  I think if you couldn't pirate anything you'd either rent or buy more games which would be better for the industry.

I only believe people buy games they pirated if they need a key to play online and that's it.. What motivation would you have to buy a game that you already have and are playing..

Ridiculous statement.

Ridiculous? Too bad its true. There are games I bought that I wouldnt have bought if i didnt pirate them first, like i said. It really depends on the financial situation but I wouldnt be liable to buy more games just because i couldn't pirate. Some people arent as willing as others to part with money and they require a deep interest in the game to purchase it. Demos dont provide that at all.

Online play is almost essential for a purchase in todays world anyway. There are few games that dont include it and do well. An example for me is infamous - i have interest in buying that game (actually other ps3 games) only because i have watched gameplay videos EXTENSIVELY, and i mean playthroughs that are running into hours worth. Thats a bit of a chore of course but its what i need to decide to buy a game, piracy is much easier.

I don't rent games... but how beneficial are game rentals to the developers? Also not everyone can buy games more than they already do so lack of piracy doesnt help there at all. They just end up playing less games and maybe becoming non-gamers with time.

I am not saying let piracy go unchecked, but it does have its benefits. Protection measures help to minimize the disadvantages

This post has been edited by semitope: Aug 22 2009, 12:00 AM

[noobidoo]

QUOTE(semitope @ Aug 22 2009, 01:59 AM)

Ridiculous? Too bad its true. There are games I bought that I wouldnt have bought if i didnt pirate them first, like i said. It really depends on the financial situation but I wouldnt be liable to buy more games just because i couldn't pirate. Some people arent as willing as others to part with money and they require a deep interest in the game to purchase it. Demos dont provide that at all.

Online play is almost essential for a purchase in todays world anyway. There are few games that dont include it and do well. An example for me is infamous - i have interest in buying that game (actually other ps3 games) only because i have watched gameplay videos EXTENSIVELY, and i mean playthroughs that are running into hours worth. Thats a bit of a chore of course but its what i need to decide to buy a game, piracy is much easier.

I don't rent games... but how beneficial are game rentals to the developers? Also not everyone can buy games more than they already do so lack of piracy doesnt help there at all. They just end up playing less games and maybe becoming non-gamers with time.

I am not saying let piracy go unchecked, but it does have its benefits. Protection measures help to minimize the disadvantages

Well said.

[personalised presents uk]

This issue had became very popular these days..what do you all say?

[ilscuro]

QUOTE(xbones @ Aug 19 2009, 02:14 AM)

So if you couldn't pirate anything you wouldn't play or buy any games?  I think if you couldn't pirate anything you'd either rent or buy more games which would be better for the industry.

I only believe people buy games they pirated if they need a key to play online and that's it.. What motivation would you have to buy a game that you already have and are playing..

Ridiculous statement.

Yeah i agree.

Answer me this though, PS3 isn't hacked 360 is, why are games the same price?

[ps2moduk]

Simple answer.

Sony would not be very happy if game developers allowed the same game to be sold cheaper for the xbox (and vice versa)

[whyexactly]

QUOTE(vildzek @ Jul 14 2009, 03:20 PM)

Even if dual layer BD is 20 $, that make cheap then originals.  I cant believe the scene is dead, so what if the key is in the cell? We donate and ask to be taken...

You'd still need a BR burner, and assuming the PS3 would be as finicky as the 360 for media you'd need expensive blanks. In the end, even after whatever the cost to hack the console was, and hoping you wouldn't get picked up and banned from PSN, you're still gonna end up paying a lot for a "backup," probably more than another copy of the game would cost by the time your original disc needed to be replaced.

[vildzek]

Is a joke ? Original cheaper then backup ?? Lol, maybe after 4 years of release. I think maths is heavy, 1 single layer is 8 E here, original (not Spider man or crapy titles - are 40 E (Demoin soul etc, good ones). And the burner you buy once, not everyday.

This post has been edited by vildzek: Dec 3 2009, 01:22 PM

[whyexactly]

Well lets assume you want to use something a bit better than the cheapest blank, roughly $15/disc. Then look at a desktop BR burner which is roughly ~$300. Then there's the unknown risk of what Sony could do if they catch onto whatever mod may come out. And yes since they're only supposed to be backups of your original games, which should last for several years before needing to be replaced, the price on what was an expensive game should be low by the time it actually needs replacing.

Yes a backup will be cheaper than an original, but by how much? Is it really worth all the development/risk to save $5/game or whatever it works out to?

[vildzek]

Excuse me, Verbatim is 8 E, and dual layer is 15 lets say. Now what ? And Iso are stored on a big HDD, no chance of getting old there. I dont stay on LIVE, not on my 360 and not on ps 3, why Because i have a life, and offline games are big enough...i dont play Fifa or Forza and shooters (except Gears), only action and rpg. And im sick of internet on my pc, im sick of MS who get a new OS every year for the money
yes now Windows 8 is the future. Updates on my consoles i make from usb or games. Case closed !

This post has been edited by vildzek: Dec 3 2009, 07:23 PM

[bearcreek]

Blueray burner from Newegg $149.99: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16827136175

Blank Verbatim blueray disks (BD-R) 10 Pack from Newegg $28.99: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817130047

[Celerion]

The main reason to pirate games for me is not the money, it's about..
 ... beeing able to play the games early
 ... not having to worry about cut games
 ... not having to worry to get an english version of a game from another country than mine
 ... not having to order a game at all, simple download it

[rajkamaliya]

Those are some reasons, but 90% people do it cause of Money.