Print

[uN0pEn]

QUOTE(semitope @ Jul 8 2009, 08:49 PM)

A lot of people buy the 360 simply because they can pirate games for itm and still buy games for the system when they feel they want to and can (me included soon) i wouldnt magically buy more games just because i can pirate but the fact that i can does affect whether i buy a system or not and eventually whether i buy games for that system or not. End result is a loss for the hackless system.

People you cant consider the world an immaculate place to do business, consumers dont have endless pockets willing to buy every games without first playing it. Linux on the ps3 is a joke

That would be a very good argument. Unfortunately gaming systems are sold at a loss with todays current business models. The only positive for the console manufacturers who are hacked would be gaining market share over another console manufacturer.

[semitope]

Gaming systems are only sold at a loss in the early years. Eventually they will make a profit on each unit sold and in the case of nintendo they always make a profit on each sold. The later years of a consoles life tend to be when it is already hacked to death so they reap those benefits.

Getting the console into peoples hands is getting that much closer to having them buy games for it.

I think it was the maker of the sims 3 that said the real way to combat piracy was to provide more than what can be pirated. Provide a reason for the person to buy it, stopping them from any access to the game will just lead to  a lost sale. A pirate who plays a game, finds it good and needs to buy it is better than someone who never bothered getting the game due to cost restraints. You need something to reel people in and demos don't do at all.

I personally would never buy a game unless i pirated it first so...

Also besides backups, the ps3 would benefit tremendously from proper homebrew apps and games. Sony will never match what the community can come up with.

[ps2moduk]

I seriously doubt the ps3 is being sold at a loss now. With each revision they remove uneeded stuff (a usb port here and there etc)

But i have to hand it to Sony they seem to have done their homework protecting this machine so far. Pirating does have a detrimental effect on companies of course but for everyone pirating a game out there i would bet there are a lot more who aren't

The argument about Bluray writers/media being expensive is a bad argument, as with everything if a hack comes out demand for writers and media will increase and the prices will tumble down. I remember my first cd writer cost more than my whole computer way back in the day and it was a whopping 1 speed as well. Now you can pick them up for peanuts.

[semitope]

QUOTE(ps2moduk @ Jul 9 2009, 04:07 PM)

I seriously doubt the ps3 is being sold at a loss now. With each revision they remove uneeded stuff (a usb port here and there etc)

But i have to hand it to Sony they seem to have done their homework protecting this machine so far. Pirating does have a detrimental effect on companies of course but for everyone pirating a game out there i would bet there are a lot more who aren't

The argument about Bluray writers/media being expensive is a bad argument, as with everything if a hack comes out demand for writers and media will increase and the prices will tumble down. I remember my first cd writer cost more than my whole computer way back in the day and it was a whopping 1 speed as well. Now you can pick them up for peanuts.

Yeah thats another thing; so many other sectors would benefit from it depending on how its hacked. The reason DVD as a media is where it is is because of piracy and other personal uses (backups), simple as that, same for CDs.

[dangerpaki]

So this topic was originally about the Paradox Loader for iso's. Is there any new news on that? Or any news on an iso loader?

[Marrvia]

PS3 hasn't even been hacked yet.  An ISO Loader isn't going to happen any time soon.


This post has been edited by Marrvia: Aug 21 2009, 01:01 AM

[Wof]

i see what the dude means, its f*ckwits like all you giving em s*it about something you would all be using already yourself if you had access to it. paradox have been around for years man, i used to patch ps1 games with their patches and stuff back in the day. stop moaning you ungrateful f*cks