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Paradox Comment on PS3 iSO Loader Posted by XanTium | 28-3-2007 16:19 EST

From Paradox' latest NFO (Armored_Core_4_USA_PS3-PARADOX): Well where should I start? Seems there have been a large number of LEECHERS moaning about our lack of 'special notes' or the fact we haven't released a 'loader' for PS3 titles - something which I feel is bang out of order since none of you f*ckwits have the slightest idea of what is involved to produce this. We have been working on something for a while in which yes we have dropped some hints in some areas not for you to think 'the loader will be released soon' - more so we've hit a stumbling block lets see if anyone else can help get us past this stumbling block - Something which had worked previously for other problems. But what do I see now? We give a great big pat on the back to someone who did a great job for a similar thing on the PSP and he has the nerve to have a go at US! NO Alej... P. B. we dont need help from outside, if we need help we will ask it directly to the person! Not with the help of a simple txt messages which is public! We rather play a match of football against you on your brother stadium name.. then some kind of lame war! Respect to you! And not to a friend who thinks hes god! Even we are not GODS! So.....where are we now?? Quite simply another stumbling block. We've been happly chugging along getting nice progress then got a PAL PS3 and found it didnt work like it supposed to be! - seems  PAL is different in some ways, and no we know peoples will think all firmwares are the same, so why would there be a different? simple answer "Hardware". So were now trying to work on a solution to this. So an ETA on this??? Could anyone please measure a piece of string!! All we can say is it will be ready when its ready. Were not the type of group that releases shoddy goods so sit back and give us the time required to sort it. And to all those b*tching in forums STFU - if you wanna b*tch write your own - oh sorry forgot your thick as fcuk and your knowledge is limited to FTP downloads and WinRAR..... And finally....you need to remember we dont always hang around as the boss/PDX or whatever but what you don't realize is without us you wouldn't have been able to get to where you are today. From PDX Console Leader

[dmb062082]

The only person crying is this guy. He needs to STFU and go play with his warez. If anything, people are talking less and less about this so called loader, which is why I think this amazing news article was even posted. Its not news worthy so just ignore it until something happens.

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And to all those b*tching in forums STFU - if you wanna b*tch write your own - oh sorry forgot your thick as fcuk and your knowledge is limited to FTP downloads and WinRAR.....

With an attitude like this I just lose interest in the project anyway. I took it with a grain of salt and forgot about it... a long time ago. Nothing has changed, and I could care less if its real or hype, or if it is ever released for that matter. I have homebrew on my ps3 to an extent with Gentoo, if I can not pirate games I wont lose sleep. ITS NOT something I Need though nice it would be. Oh well.

[scottmuller28]

Sounds like Paradox is running out of drugs and is losing it big time. Chill...dude You have down a excellent job. Just release what you have done so far and take some pressure off yourself and the team. You should allow help from the outside as this is a huge project. Allow others to contribute to the project, I dont see the point in trying to do it on your own, you end up mad!!

[asoftlad]

I could see this coming,  wherever you go if it isnt site admin posting messages of hope about this release it's people on forums begging for it. To some degree though they did bring it on themselves with hints and teasers increasing the anticipation and hype and the supposed concurrent release of Xecuters HDXT with the loader did nothing but fuel the flames.
I only hope the scene takes notice before we all have to paypal contributions to put the console division of PDX through rehab.
I have full faith in PDX, having used many of their realeases cross platform i only had issues with one (the equally long coming chaos theory patch) but their good enough odds for me to be confident in their work.
I equally fully support their decision to stall the NTSC release in favour of a universal release that works with the modified PAL hardware.
Take a break guys, forget the scene for awhile. Then come back relaxed and with a clear head and do what you do best!

[easyjesus]

This guy is full of it!! If the pal version does not work than woopy doo!
Just release the u.s. version and save your self-worth. I remember , just wait it will be out when the europe launch happens, well i was watching, you know what i saw..... nothing
just a non talented guy and his made up paradox loader that has fake videos
and no proof ... bend over good sir, you have just been flaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamed!!
or prove me and everyone else wrong and share your info.. true hackers dont hack for money!!!
dont be a bitch ass.

[heartofalion]

i wonder if you have even heard of paradox?

they are not some of the wall warez group.


Mebe read there wiki?

they are legit dude, just give them time.

This is a favor to us they arent doing this cuz they have to u fuck

[luke3001]

lmao  this is great

and yes, i do only know FTP and winrar  

but im not complianing!!  i'm willing to wait as long as it takes with this crappy out of date firmware, there's a reason i have a ps3 and 0 games...and its not because im waiting for your loader.  the games blow anyways!  

[openxdkman]

Problem is it's quite possible security 'hole' got closed by hardware upgrade in ALL new shipments... (ferrox team gave all the infos to Sony in february).
So, there is no longer any ETA of any kind... and lesser hopes for PAL ps3's.
Let's be realistic. Now 99% of PS3 users will have fun online and gladly upgrade firmware.

When exploit will be known, only a few people (really a few) will be able to use it. Only pure pirates or pure developpers... They should have released technical exploit details even if it only works on NTSC. But they have pure pirate profile, not developper profile...

However, what happened with 360 may still happen... I.e a human mistake opening a hole in a narrow firmware version range. But that will be pure luck.

Certainly, the hints given by Paradox are nice. A few skilled developpers know where to look for, with which hardware, with which firmware range. That's quite precious and we have to thank them (for the hints, confirmed by ferrox story). But for non-pirate developpers, motivation is low (just the need of GPU driver) since all other parts of homebrew programming are already supported on ps3. So don't expect a rush on finding the exploit. It will take time... a lots of time... Also some developpers said they won't try to hack ps3 to reward Sony for their good move in letting users install Linux out of the box.

They shouldn't complain. When you advertise what you have and people want it badly and can't grab it, flaming posts always appear... No exceptions. If you want to design something peacefully, don't show it.

This post has been edited by openxdkman: Mar 30 2007, 01:12 PM

[Shaolyen]

To hell with Paradox. I wouldn't care if they left the scene completely, it's not like someone else wouldn't pick things up. If the douches didn't have something working in the first place they shouldn't have announced it. Just looking at this makes me think we're dealing with a bunch of retards.

[UB6_IB9]

QUOTE(dmb062082 @ Mar 28 2007, 10:23 PM)

The only person crying is this guy. He needs to STFU and go play with his warez. If anything, people are talking less and less about this so called loader, which is why I think this amazing news article was even posted. Its not news worthy so just ignore it until something happens.
With an attitude like this I just lose interest in the project anyway. I took it with a grain of salt and forgot about it... a long time ago. Nothing has changed, and I could care less if its real or hype, or if it is ever released for that matter. I have homebrew on my ps3 to an extent with Gentoo, if I can not pirate games I wont lose sleep. ITS NOT something I Need though nice it would be. Oh well.

Yeah I totally agree mate they haven't done anything yet so we all have the rights to shut them down and say that its all bullshit. He says that have hit a stumbling block so why not get help then....the 360 wasn't hacked by one person alone, the origin hack was created then other people added to this to make it better. I say they should just release whatever they have now and stop bitching about their "stumbling blocks". Even if they don't release it and it can be done I'm sure someone else will do it and put them to shame. Paradox has lost my respect from posting this.

[yourM0M]

heh F*ckwits  


keep up the good work team paradox thats all i can say

[youloseagain]

FAKE!!! Ive been saying it for the past 2 months and everybody tell me to STFU! Parad0x clearly doesnt have an iso loader and if you cant see threw them your a F***** retard.

[openxdkman]

Can't be fake. Too many hints from two separate teams...

I'm seriously wondering now...

Let's assume Sony received info about security hole in early February...
If the hole implied the Emotion Engine that would explain its removal...
It was a bit strange to remove it just to save $30... Also trying to make some code run on EE is the first thing to try since all is known about EE and maybe it brought interesting results immediately (that would explain why two teams reported success so fast)...

Someone, on another site, is claiming to have some contacts with PDX and reports this about PAL ps3's: "They can't get their exploit working because the PS2 is being emulated (different programming) so the hole is missing in action".

So, the current pre-requisite for the exploit is :
- firmware between 1.00 and 1.51
- emotion engine


This post has been edited by openxdkman: Mar 30 2007, 11:55 AM

[mik30]

QUOTE(youloseagain @ Mar 30 2007, 02:45 AM)

FAKE!!! Ive been saying it for the past 2 months and everybody tell me to STFU! Parad0x clearly doesnt have an iso loader and if you cant see threw them your a F***** retard.

That´s exactly what any serious guy should think.
The article on wicki about paradox is senseless regarding
the iso loader.

Paradox brought up the expectations of the so called "leechers"
by themself.

I also consider it very cheap to spread images of games with
an info file marking it as "cracked" although they did nothing
more than a divce dump from linux without even touching the
binaries.

Spreading on the other hand arrogant messages like this one
is ridicolous...
They have to recognize that a group only earns respect
for releasing stuff, not for having a big mouth.

[JaXbox]

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..oh sorry forgot your thick as fcuk and your knowledge is limited to FTP downloads and WinRAR.....

That one hurt   Can someone plz post the PayPal info to make this bad man stop his bullet-proof critique ?