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[lc204]

I wonder how much Sony paid to Warner Bros for exclusivity.

[sillyboydarryl]

I own and support HD DVD titles...


but...

I'll admit that there was a lot against it.. (and still is)


1.  No HD DVD on the 360 (without addon).. but a Bluray on a PS3 (that really didn't have decent games so people bought movies.)

2.  The porn industry changed from HD DVD exclusive to Bluray.  Now originally they wanted to put stuff on Bluray but Sony said NO.  All of the sudden the Porn Industry realizes how many PS3s are used for movies and their users demand porn (no joke lol) so the Porn Industry finally gets a green flag from Sony to make porn.  Porn lead the way for VHS and DVD...  The porn Industry loved the WEB enabled content from HD DVD but then realized no one really uses it.

3.  The departure of Warner Bros was rumored.. but them leaving has a lot to do with all the other companies that back Bluray exclusively.

4.  Target + Walmart + Bestbuy.  Go to their stores and see how big the Bluray section is compared to HD DVD.  Retailers had much more impact on the choice of Media (as it hurts their bottom line when the people dont know what media to side with).

[snart]

QUOTE(DeMoN_DARREN @ Jan 4 2008, 11:54 PM)

Shame that, HD-DVD is just better...  Well, fuck, market cornered again

Why do you say that? I own a bunch of movies in both formats. To me, they're identical, except that Blu-ray discs are much more durable.

[warmaster_670]

QUOTE(twistedsymphony @ Jan 4 2008, 06:55 PM)

The HD-A2 was selling for $99 before christmas in the US
The HD-A3 was selling for $199 before christmas in the US

each came with 10 HD-DVDs for free with purchase
300, the Bourne Supremacy, 5 more from a select list and 3 more from pretty much anything in the store (save box sets).

HD-DVDs are cheaper... if the cheapest you could find is $350 then they either jack up the price in Canada or they're simply out of stock of the cheap ones.

The cheapest Stand Alone Blu-Ray player I've seen is also $450 though.

amazon.com has one right now for $316 USD

[rocarmy4life]

maaaaaan...MS really messed up by not putting the HD-DVD player in their consoles as standard.  With how many millions of consoles sold...pshhh

i really wish they had...this woulda been over a looong time ago.

[emailer33]

QUOTE(snart @ Jan 4 2008, 06:58 PM)

Why do you say that? I own a bunch of movies in both formats. To me, they're identical, except that Blu-ray discs are much more durable.

HD-DVD require more features on the players, thus if the studio's take advantage of it, more features on the movies.  That and the fact that Blu-ray standard was changing as movies were coming out, while HD-DVD is pretty much set in stone.

Odd you mention Blu-ray being more durable, from my experience they scratch insanely easy.

[sillyboydarryl]

5.  Recordable media..

Blu Ray burners for the PC are now dipping in the 399 range.  Make no mistake.. thats huge.


I've yet to see a HD DVD burner.. but there are tonz of 10 dollar HD DVDrs around...

[warmaster_670]

QUOTE(sillyboydarryl @ Jan 4 2008, 06:57 PM)

I own and support HD DVD titles...
but...

I'll admit that there was a lot against it.. (and still is)
1.  No HD DVD on the 360 (without addon).. but a Bluray on a PS3 (that really didn't have decent games so people bought movies.)

2.  The porn industry changed from HD DVD exclusive to Bluray.  Now originally they wanted to put stuff on Bluray but Sony said NO.  All of the sudden the Porn Industry realizes how many PS3s are used for movies and their users demand porn (no joke lol) so the Porn Industry finally gets a green flag from Sony to make porn.  Porn lead the way for VHS and DVD...  The porn Industry loved the WEB enabled content from HD DVD but then realized no one really uses it.

3.  The departure of Warner Bros was rumored.. but them leaving has a lot to do with all the other companies that back Bluray exclusively.

4.  Target + Walmart + Bestbuy.  Go to their stores and see how big the Bluray section is compared to HD DVD.  Retailers had much more impact on the choice of Media (as it hurts their bottom line when the people dont know what media to side with).

sony never said no to porn, there was already porn on blu ray when that was spread

QUOTE(emailer33 @ Jan 4 2008, 07:02 PM)

HD-DVD require more features on the players, thus if the studio's take advantage of it, more features on the movies.  That and the fact that Blu-ray standard was changing as movies were coming out, while HD-DVD is pretty much set in stone.

Odd you mention Blu-ray being more durable, from my experience they scratch insanely easy.

then your experiences were bad, theve got scrath resistent coating on them, not sure who made it, toshiba, starts with a t i think

[prplehz]

I just wont buy either format. How they like them apples?  Marketing BS at it's finest.  But really after thinking about it, I think I will buy HD-DVDs. If we all say ah crap and just give up then Blu Ray wins automaticly.  So if it is a war lets bring out the nukes and buy up those HDDVDs, lol...  And to the guy that said MS putting a HDDVD player in the 360 would have made a huge difference.  I could not agree more.  That would have been a huuge market base of people that would have bought HDDVDs just because they could play them in the 360 as is.  

Edited: After thinking about it some more...

This post has been edited by prplehz: Jan 5 2008, 01:26 AM

[Quest]

sony does still say no to porn, but sony is not the only company licensed and capable to press bluerays.
all porn on blueray is not pressed by sony owned companys.

[bucko]

I'm just dam glad I got a PS3 now hehe though I will still be buying HD-DVD's since I don't want to sit on the fence but Warner Bros is still producing HD-DVD's right just means movies will come out first on Blu-Ray? So I doubt it's that bad, oh and I still think HD-DVD's have an edge over movie price, play.com has awesome titles for really cheap. I'm tempted to buy the Matrix collection my self.

[warmaster_670]

QUOTE(bucko @ Jan 4 2008, 07:14 PM)

I'm just dam glad I got a PS3 now hehe though I will still be buying HD-DVD's since I don't want to sit on the fence but Warner Bros is still producing HD-DVD's right just means movies will come out first on Blu-Ray? So I doubt it's that bad, oh and I still think HD-DVD's have an edge over movie price, play.com has awesome titles for really cheap. I'm tempted to buy the Matrix collection my self.

i would guess that after the current movies coming out on hddvd are out, the rest will be blu ray only.

of course i didnt bother tor ead about it

[bubbafett4hire]

I have to say hurray for blu-ray only cause i have to look at the fact that all discs i don't care how well you take care of them get some kind of little surface scratch that with most disks means a skip or a loss of data and i know blu ray you can damm near (not all the way) slide it across the floor and it will sill play like a champ not only that with the format war going and a majority of people only caring about there HD movies people i think forget that storage wise on a BR you can't beat i know there burners still carry the 600 - 1000 price tag but who can say no to 50 gigs on one disc

[Ranger72]

Why on earth do you people insist on bringing up the porn issue. It means nothing today since most of it is spread through digital means.

But truth be told some of you are so blind loyal to HDDVD that nothing really matters anyway. You guys will be the next beta max guys 5 years from now. Sitting alone in your dark basement with pictures of little red HD-DVD disk boxes bouncing in your head wondering why they cant find their favorite movie at their local WalMart.

Who cares people. I have 2 HDDVD stand alone players and my PS3. I would like HDDVD to be doing better but in the end I just want one format to win and it looks like that will be Blu-Ray.

But this war was over before it began. Disney won this war long time ago.

This post has been edited by Ranger72: Jan 5 2008, 01:25 AM

[IDidMyTime]

QUOTE(rocarmy4life @ Jan 5 2008, 02:02 AM)

maaaaaan...MS really messed up by not putting the HD-DVD player in their consoles as standard.  With how many millions of consoles sold...pshhh

i really wish they had...this woulda been over a looong time ago.

I dont, that would of rocketed the price of the 360 and i doubt they would of sold as many units as they had. MS did the better option because atleast their console is selling well.

Lets be honest here, Blu Ray is the better choice and im glad its won, I look forward to getting Blu Ray in the next Xbox