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Bighomedog11

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« on: June 23, 2008, 04:52:00 PM »

Hey i just brought a modchip.. the Duox2 gs. I am wondering how do i install it? On my LPC there is solder in the holes. So i remove the solder with the solder gun and when i put the modchip in i get a FRAG xbox.. And my xbox was working fine before.. the xbox will cutt off 3 times and beep and then onces it cuts on it flash green and red and theres nothing on my t.v. I checked the board for solder on the board and i dont see none. What should i do to fix this?
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« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2008, 05:03:00 PM »

There is most likely something wrong with the install.Recheck your work again use a multimeter to make sure it is right also check to make sure that you have not bridged something or got a solder splash on the mobo it will cause this to.Make sure you didnt knock the little caps off around the lpc as well.
A picture of your work posted might help us more if that is possible.
Also this is really a topic for the modchip forum here  
http://forums.xbox-s...p?showforum=181
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« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2008, 06:13:00 PM »

Are you actually using a "soldering gun" or did you mean to say soldering iron. If you are using a soldering gun then that would be your problem as you probably burnt the LPC ports pretty bad.
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« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2008, 09:28:00 PM »

Yes i used a solder iron.. I ment. The Lcp holes it had solder in them. So i had to use my solder iron to pop the solder out. It has to be a trace got burnt because it was working fine and i removed the chip and still..

But here are some pictures.. If you need better ones just tell me.. Also if u can help me on messager that would be good 2. So if you have a messenger leave your name..
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« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2008, 10:01:00 PM »

It is most likely a solder splash or a burnt trace.
Do you have a multimeter?If not your going to need one and check to see how your board is compared to this
http://www.xbox-scen...es/lpc-diag.php
Also take a magnifing glass around the board to see if you got a solder splash or knocked something loose such as this
http://www.xbox-scen...c-capacitor.php
I cant tell anything by your pics they are from too far away and not bright enough in some and a glare in others.
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« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2008, 10:23:00 PM »

QUOTE(run088 @ Jun 23 2008, 08:37 PM) View Post

It is most likely a solder splash or a burnt trace.
Do you have a multimeter?If not your going to need one and check to see how your board is compared to this
http://www.xbox-scen...es/lpc-diag.php
Also take a magnifing glass around the board to see if you got a solder splash or knocked something loose such as this
http://www.xbox-scen...c-capacitor.php
I cant tell anything by your pics they are from too far away and not bright enough in some and a glare in others.

Ok thanks for the reply.. Its my Lcp... I took a better picture..

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« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2008, 02:42:00 AM »

The 1.0v and early 1.1v are the only ones you have to worry about the lpc being filled with solder but in the future what you need to do to remove the solder is to get some desoldering braid it is at radio shack and will cost you 3 or 4 dollars.It is strands of thin copper wire that you put over the areas that you want to remove the solder and then apply the soldering iron over top the braid and heat it up this will suck the solder up into the braid.
But you got some work on your hands now if your going to fix it.Every track will have to be traced and both sides of the board must be connected.Here is a diagram of a 1.1 it is from sickmods "props to sickmods"

http://diy.sickmods....1/Hi-Res_Scans/

It should be the same as the 1.0.
You must have continuity threw the trace either your going to have to use a razer blade or something and scrap gently back the green layer to get at the copper trace then add a little flux to absorb the solder which will tint the trace so you can attach a wire then connect point a to point b and thats that also each side of the original hole must be connected to its counter part on the other side.
You also need to get a soldering iron that is no more powerful than 15 to 25w any higher than that it will burn up tracks to easy and never try to leave the iron on one place to long it will increase the chances of burning up traces.
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« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2008, 03:11:00 AM »

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You also need to get a soldering iron that is no more powerful than 15 to 25w any higher than that it will burn up tracks to easy

 That's not actually correct. I won't go into details. But do a search on soldering filtered using my member name for some of the posts I did on this way back.
In actual fact the lower the power the more chance of damage
If you can't find the posts let me know and I will post the detail.
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« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2008, 03:38:00 AM »

I will agree that is why on the next line I said to be sure to not leave the iron in one area to long.
I was trying to break it down the best I could as brief as I could because he seemed to have needed the help.
I personally prefer 25 to 30 watts no more than this but in some areas a lesser 15w is alot easier to handle.
I figured if he took the advise to go to radio shack to get the desoldering braid he would see the soldering iron at radio shack that is 15 or 25w with the flip of a switch for less than 15 dollars and pick it up as I know it is a decent iron Ive had a few they are dependable and the price is good.For the xbox it is perfect for the average modder.
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« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2008, 11:42:00 AM »

Ok thanks for the reply. I have a desolder braid i just didnt use it because it was going too slow.. I guess when i rush i screw up.. sad.gif  But anyways what is the best way to fix a trace? You said use a razor and go over the trace again...
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« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2008, 01:27:00 PM »

It looks to me like you've pretty much destroyed that board. It would take some somewhat advanced soldering to fix that up.

Start over on a new xbox and do things right, or maybe stick to softmodding.

Otherwise look for someone who can repair it for you.
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« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2008, 01:58:00 PM »

Alright. I am going to start over with another xbox i have.. And try to trade the FRAG boards for a worken board. But i am wondering whats the best way to fix a trace? I heard a conductive pen will work but i don't know how much those cost.. They might cost a arm and a leg.. Witch i don't wont..
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« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2008, 02:03:00 PM »

If you want to fix your board it is still repairable but not a simple task I will help all I can.Here is a tut from another site that explains in better detail what must be done and how to do it.Take a look at it see what you think if you dont understand anything ask I will explain it for you.

http://www.llamma.co...lifted_pads.htm
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« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2008, 02:58:00 PM »

If you want the board fixing. get someone to do it for you. Fixing the damage done is harder than the task you were attempting when you damaged it.
You won't fix that with a conductive pen either so save your money.
Where are you located? someone here will be able to
a) fix that one or
B.) fit your chip to the new one
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« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2008, 03:20:00 PM »

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If you want to fix your board it is still repairable but not a simple task I will help all I can.Here is a tut from another site that explains in better detail what must be done and how to do it.Take a look at it see what you think if you dont understand anything ask I will explain it for you.

http://www.llamma.co...lifted_pads.htm

I seen that yesturday.. That looks alittle hard with the soldering part..

QUOTE(Chancer @ Jun 24 2008, 01:34 PM) View Post

If you want the board fixing. get someone to do it for you. Fixing the damage done is harder than the task you were attempting when you damaged it.
You won't fix that with a conductive pen either so save your money.
Where are you located? someone here will be able to
a) fix that one or
B.) fit your chip to the new one

I am in Georgia, Ok so i a conductive pen wont work? Will solder flux work? I am going to go to Radio Shack today and get a better tip for my solder iron because the one i have is burnt and some better solder. Because the solder i have it has a hard time sticking to the board. And thats what causing me to burn the board because the solder is not sticking on the board like it suppose to
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