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gugutz

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« on: September 14, 2012, 07:14:00 PM »

QUOTE(joeblow420 @ Aug 28 2012, 05:51 PM) View Post

just wanted to say, so far, i have been successful in formatting a new WD Green series..
the WD20EARX !
confirmed partitions are in 64 clusters.. so far so good!


Hey joeblow420, did you make anything else to make the partitions be formatted with 64kb clusters?

Because here the AID formatted mine with 32kb, and i had to use xbpartitioner afterall (both versions)

Still using the SATA drive and so far no problems (apart from the longer time to boot, but you eventually get used to it)
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vicfcano

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« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2012, 12:53:00 AM »

I've been thinking about upgrading my factory drive to the Western Digital Caviar GP WD10EACS 1TB. (Yeah, the one that galvanash mentioned) I mean if it worked for them why not right? Any who, I"ve been lookin online and have run across some reasonably priced ones on ebay. The only thing is, is that some of them say "like new" or they're used but tested. So my questions are, has anyone had any experience upgrading with a used HDD? Would a used or "like new" HDD be a viable option for my upgrade? and if not, can anyone recommend a comparable HDD for around 60-80$?
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Mr.Slim

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« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2012, 10:49:00 PM »

Used harddrives work too bro,, just make sure its a working one and not too old. lol
an WD an Seagates are your Best options.
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KaptenPanaka

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« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2013, 04:21:00 PM »

I actually got it working after a while. It's very important to format the 2 TB HDD exactly like aidhog wrote in this post
I used the same HDD and the complex adapter setup as shown in my picture
I was able to nicely put the adapter and the cables in the dead space behind the DVD. It's working perfectly and im very happy!
Result
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galvanash

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« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2008, 11:18:00 PM »

This is my first post here, but I have been messing with xboxen since virtually day one. I have never seen a definitive post on the net about whether this particular upgrade is doable and exactly what hardware will work, so since I just managed to accomplish it I thought posting my details might help others out.

WHAT YOU WILL NEED

1. SATA harddrive. I assume there are other drives that will work as well, but I chose to use a Western Digital Caviar GP WD10EACS 1TB. It proved to be lockable so it will work for either modchip users or those with softmods. It is also very quite and runs quite cool to the touch. Regardless, you will need LBA48 support in your bios or a softmod which supports it such as nkpatcher (I use nkpatcher 11).

2. SATA to IDE adapter. Again, there may be other adapters that work, but I know this one does:  SABRENT SBT-STDB IDE Ultra ATA-100/133 to SATA Port Mini Converter

Thats it really. I wont bother with a step by step as no trickery is required, the basic howtos for a harddrive upgrade will work fine. I used xboxhdm v1.9 and followed the normal procedure which can be found on this site. I used xbpartitioner and chose to split the free space across F and G using 32KB clusters. I ended up with 2 496GB partitions, and have completely filled up one of them with no corruption issues.

Happy upgrading!
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BigPotty

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« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2008, 03:38:00 PM »

FINALLY!!

Thanks a million for the info! I've been researching this idea for a long while and have been very hesitant to go through with it.

And to think I was just about to buy a 750gig IDE Seagate too (seems like the last model around).

THIS METHOD will soon be the ONLY METHOD for upgrading a HD! Hopefully the Sabrent hardware proves to be reliable though.

THANKS AGAIN!!
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FierceGaming

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« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2008, 08:38:00 PM »

Nice man...I'm actually trying to do this same thing only not with a TB! wow.  I've got half a TB I want to put in my xbox.  I've looked at a few of these converters (do they fit in the xbox).  I have a  Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s hdd.  Thanks for the post.

-Nick

This post has been edited by FierceGaming: Apr 26 2008, 03:46 AM
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BigPotty

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« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2008, 02:57:00 PM »

Received my new 750 gig SATA Samsung Hard Drive and Sabrent SATA to IDE Adapter.

Absolutely no problems setting it up. The adapter fits in nice and snug to both the SATA connector and the IDE connector. I set the jumper to master, took a guess on which way the IDE cable should go (the same direction as an IDE drive) and it booted properly on the first try.

Now I've been transferring around 450 gigs of files from my old HD to the new one. Been going all night and day without any issues...

This is the hard drive I got:

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F1 HD753LJ 750GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822152100

So I suppose the limits on the xbox now are about a 1TB drive or so? I was reading a thread before about 64k cluster sizes, but not sure if that was worked out or not.

And thanks again, galvanash, for sharing. I probably would have went with an IDE Seagate drive if not for this. I avoid Seagate and WD like the plague these days! They just don't seem to be very reliable anymore.
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FierceGaming

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« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2008, 04:25:00 PM »

Gald to hear you got it working BigPotty.  When everything gets mailed to me I will tell you how it goes.  Thanks to galvanash for the information as well smile.gif.  However I have a dead hdd in my xbox (and no oringal drive) to so I had to order a 1.6 version mother with matching harddrive.  But anyway I've done xbox modding since 2003 so shouldn't be a problem  tongue.gif.
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Bomb Bloke

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« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2008, 08:53:00 PM »

QUOTE(BigPotty @ May 2 2008, 08:57 AM) View Post
So I suppose the limits on the xbox now are about a 1TB drive or so? I was reading a thread before about 64k cluster sizes, but not sure if that was worked out or not.

Indeed, for now the limit is 1tb (using two 512gb partitions formatted with 32kb clusters).

We did get one guy going with 64kb clusters (grossly inefficient in my opinion even if it does allow a single 1tb partition - or even higher amounts of storage space), but it seems we've run out of willing testers.
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BigPotty

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« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2008, 01:07:00 AM »

Well I've finished moving all my stuff to the new drive. Took me a few days. I had this strange problem a few times where I would set up the transfer and come back later to find the xbox turned off. And the transfer had not completed yet. And to make this even more mysterious, it did this in both the X3 live config and in XBMC.

Also, it's locked up a couple of times on me while booting. The HD activity led will just stay lit solid. Turn it off and back on and then it boots ok. It also had these problems with my old IDE HD too (but not till I started this upgrade)

So I'm thinking its probably one of a few things:
1. Maybe my 1.0 xbox is finally giving out.
2. My IDE cable is going bad. (is this common around here?)
3. Something with my PSU.
4. Something to do with Master/slave/cable select.

The reason why I list #4 is because I've read here that the HD should be on Master. Is this correct?
But when I went to do the upgrade, the HD that I was removing had been on Cable Select (for the last year or so).

The other problem is that the jumper on the Sabrent adapter is very cryptic! It seems to have 2 different markings for the jumper setting. I basically just guessed as to what it should be. (I think I have it completely out right now). So anyway I tried it a few different ways and it didn't seem to make a difference.

The worst thing is that this seems to be a totally random problem (the slow boots and the freezing/shut offs). It doesn't happen every time I use it, thankfully, but it is annoying.

So what do you guys think? Any idea about the jumper setting? Or the freezing? I was thinking that because the drive is so large and is fatx, maybe the xbox just takes forever to scan it on boot? Does something like that happen? Oh by the way, when it freezes on boot up, it's just after the "X3 rox my box". The other lock ups and or shut downs were while doing FTP transfers.

And yes I formated F and G with 32k clusters and at about 350gigs each.

Oh and another thing, earlier tonight I was moving a few more files over and when I booted the xbox, my G partition was missing! I rebooted and it came back. Very strange...
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Bomb Bloke

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« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2008, 01:45:00 AM »

Um, some of those things sound like other problems people have had... But only when using SATA drives.  unsure.gif

It's too early to say if it's a drive model thing, an adaptor thing, or what... It also doesn't help that the symptoms come and go. Some sort of timing issue maybe?

Re the random shut downs, about how long would the system have been active? There's a six hour auto-turn off option that can be set via the MS Dash (on by default if memory serves), and XBMC also has a seperate setting of it's own (off by default though).
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« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2008, 06:35:00 AM »

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Um, some of those things sound like other problems people have had... But only when using SATA drives.


Indeed, ive had this problem with multiple SATA drives on other modchip settings.He's right about the model thing but im going to have to go with its an adapter problem, did your adapter come with a driver disc? if so thats more then likely your problem, SATA adapter like that cant run properly on there own(which is why its meant to go in a PC). If you happen to have gotten one of those "plug in play" adapter then check the circuits on top for any solder that could be bridged, especially on the main chip. Ive noticed on my adapter when i first got it there was solder bridging over 5 pins together on that one chip, once desoldered the problem was GREATLY reduced.

also , does your drive have a jumper setting? if so remove it, if its anything like WD SATA drives then you dont need SCC
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BigPotty

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« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2008, 08:34:00 PM »

Thanks a lot for the help guys.

The Sabrent adapter doesn't come with or need a driver. It does work properly, mostly. I used it today for a couple hours without any problems. Played a few games and transfered some more files with FTP.

It did freeze up on booting once today, though. I turn it on and it shows the the Xbox logo and Xecuter stuff. The HD indicator LED flashes a few times and then turns solid red (This seems to happen on every boot up now). The HD LED stays red and XBMC doesn't come up. I've left it for up to 5 minutes and nothing happens. So, I turn it off and back on and then it will boot up normally.

As for the HD jumper, it didn't come with one. Although, it does look like there are pins on the HD itself to put a jumper, I haven't tried. SATA drives don't need this, right?

As I stated before the jumper on the Sabrent adapter itself is a little weird. Kinda hard to tell which position does what. Typical Chinese crap. I could probably post a picture here if someone wanted a closer look at it.

I have tried disabling all of the Auto-Off features, including in the Xbox Dash and XBMC. Didn't make a difference. Last night I did some transfers and when I woke up it was still on. I'm sorta thinking that maybe my Xbox is just getting a bit worn out.

Thanks again. It seems we might be the pioneers of the large SATA HD upgrades for the Xbox1. At least there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of other info / experiences around here.
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« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2008, 02:31:00 AM »

make sure it isn't overheating
maybe upgrade to an 80mm fan or something
just a thought
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