Topic: Ps3 Vs Xbox360 Is Ps3 That Much Better (Read 478 times)

P3NCE · « **Reply #30 on:** November 22, 2006, 10:29:00 AM »

These are Sony fanboys you are talking to, they probably owned a PS2 and are just going with their next gen system. I bet if you ask them what kind of games they play they'll say Madden, they are probably just casual gamers.

silentbob343 · « **Reply #31 on:** November 22, 2006, 10:33:00 AM »

QUOTE(P3NCE @ Nov 22 2006, 01:36 PM)

These are Sony fanboys you are talking to, they probably owned a PS2 and are just going with their next gen system. I bet if you ask them what kind of games they play they'll say Madden, they are probably just casual gamers.

Who is they? It just came out that I am only one person. Heck the PS2 was my first and only console

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Mr Invader · « **Reply #32 on:** November 22, 2006, 06:22:00 PM »

QUOTE(Pheidias @ Nov 21 2006, 03:21 PM)

m_hael so you have a answer to why they didin't go with 720p on thps p8 for the x360. Would be nice to know why especially since you have been saying how much greater the x360 is and easier to develop for, or at least insinuate. Did your engine come out a bit to much for the machine to handle?

If you're trying to get to a point that the xbox 360 lacks power while the PS3 does not, think twice. Looking through IGN on images of THP8 on both systems, i couldn't come across any pictures on the PS3 version that looked better than a similar pic of the 360 version (Vice-versa). It was the way the game was made, not because of flaws on either system. But because that was the way they wanted it done.

THP8 is still wonderful looking game on both systems. I don't know why you would be complaning about the resolution when i can sit 3 foot away from my HDTV and not notice any pixelation on the game. It may not be exactly 1280x720, but why complain when it looks this good?

edit: I gotta add that if THP8 is too much for the 360 to handle, then it is a revolutionary game indeed.

Pheidias · « **Reply #33 on:** November 22, 2006, 11:11:00 PM »

We all know the x360 version looks and runs better and have some extra graphics added on but that doesn't take away from the fact that if P8 had been 720p on the x360 it wouldn't have been playable at all. So all I wanna know is where did they go wrong, how could they have ended up with a game that wouldn't play in 720p.

Or did Neversoft by some freakish idea decide to make the 360 games in lower resolutions right from the start and thereby break the forced 720p MS promised its consumers.

incognegro · « **Reply #34 on:** November 23, 2006, 03:28:00 AM »

Can anybody confirm that the ps3 versions of CoD and THP8 are running in 720p or the same resolution as the 360 versions? That' ll probably get pheidas to stop fishing for ammunition for his next ps3 vs. 360 argument.

m_chael is not gonna answer you

silentbob343 · « **Reply #35 on:** November 23, 2006, 08:57:00 AM »

QUOTE(openxdkman @ Nov 23 2006, 04:23 AM)

Last "legal" question : Do you know also PC graphic cards? Can you compare lastest NVidia and ATI series with xbox gpu? Let's say... at which price level, lastest pci-express x16 PC graphics cards can compete with xbox gpu? Will be my last question.

And once again, many many thanks for posting stuff in these forums. It helps to understand hidden things!
Thanks m_hael!

the ATi 1900 series

openxdkman · « **Reply #36 on:** November 23, 2006, 09:15:00 AM »

thx for the info silent bob (ok ok I stop bumping the thread)

that's around 150 bucks... similar to xentos cost... logical

roland13 · « **Reply #37 on:** November 23, 2006, 03:58:00 PM »

Great Debate and a good read.

dvsone · « **Reply #38 on:** November 23, 2006, 06:40:00 PM »

They probably didn't reduce the res on the PS3 versions of TH8 & COD3 because of sony's issues with scaling. Nothing gets scaled up unless a scaler is built into the TV, right? So they would be running at 420p on most HDTV's.

Mr Invader · « **Reply #39 on:** November 23, 2006, 10:25:00 PM »

QUOTE(dvsone @ Nov 23 2006, 07:47 PM)

They probably didn't reduce the res on the PS3 versions of TH8 & COD3 because of sony's issues with scaling. Nothing gets scaled up unless a scaler is built into the TV, right? So they would be running at 420p on most HDTV's.

You mean 720p. And i'm willing to bet that the resolution of THP8 and CoD3 are the same or both the 360 and PS3.

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We all know the x360 version looks and runs better and have some extra graphics added on but that doesn't take away from the fact that if P8 had been 720p on the x360 it wouldn't have been playable at all. So all I wanna know is where did they go wrong, how could they have ended up with a game that wouldn't play in 720p.

Nobody ever said that if THP8 was running in full 720p then it wouldn't be playable, it would just have some framerate issues. That being said, it doesn't mean that the 360 nor the PS3 aren't capable of running something at full 720p.

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Or did Neversoft by some freakish idea decide to make the 360 games in lower resolutions right from the start and thereby break the forced 720p MS promised its consumers.

At least the 360 can upscale, which makes a difference. Every game made on the 360 can be upscaled to 720p(at least)

Pheidias · « **Reply #40 on:** November 23, 2006, 11:06:00 PM »

Invader if it has framerate problems at its current res I'd say it won't be playable at 720p, Its as if you play a pc game at 1024*768 and notice it has some stutters, if you then up the res to 1280 you wouldn't even be able to play it cos of the low framerates you'd get.

If the ps3 version is also running in a lower res then that would mean that instead of going for 720p they decided to use processor power on the ps3 to handle the scaling, then its no wonder if there are bigger framerate issues on the ps3 version.

But then how did MS allow activision to create a game with the intension of doing it in SD.

I would love a statement from either MS or Activions about this.

m_hael · « **Reply #41 on:** November 24, 2006, 08:31:00 AM »

QUOTE(Pheidias @ Nov 23 2006, 10:13 PM)

Invader if it has framerate problems at its current res I'd say it won't be playable at 720p, Its as if you play a pc game at 1024*768 and notice it has some stutters, if you then up the res to 1280 you wouldn't even be able to play it cos of the low framerates you'd get.

you making a major assumption that rendering is the bottleneck. If it is then your example stands, if say AI is the bottleneck then you can switch the res all you want... its still cpu bound by the AI.

m_hael · « **Reply #42 on:** November 24, 2006, 11:38:00 AM »

QUOTE(silentbob343 @ Nov 24 2006, 10:42 AM)

Don't suppose you could disclose if it is a GPU or CPU issue?

nope

KAGE360 · « **Reply #43 on:** November 24, 2006, 01:44:00 PM »

i dont get it, why not let it go? he's not going to talk, he shouldnt even need to be put in that position. he doesnt visit the site to answer our needs, he's a gamer just like us. there is too much speculating and not enough talk about what makes these great games great.

what everyone should care about is what your looking for in each game and get the version that best fits you. since the 360 versions have everything the ps3 versions have and more i would say get them no matter what the your looking for

seriously though, im not being put on the spot light but even im getting sick of all this talk about one flaw that plagues two great games.

Pheidias · « **Reply #44 on:** November 24, 2006, 02:52:00 PM »

Maybe its more fun to talk about game flaws then bashing this and that system.

Don't forget the ps3 version has stuff the x360 version doesn't too

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