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« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2006, 06:43:00 AM »

Me wants to play F1 06, wish this game would make it's dam way to 360. Ill get a 360 first in March when decent games come out, then later I may consider getting the PS3 20GB model since it now has HDMI. I am considering getting a PS2Slim next week though cause I'm such an F1 fan ph34r.gif
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« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2006, 07:39:00 AM »

QUOTE(nickthegreat @ Sep 24 2006, 01:36 PM) View Post

Two words: Pro evo  biggrin.gif
I hear the foot steps of Kira......... enjoy  tongue.gif


Oh no, kira is not gonna argue with a dude as knowledgable (sp?) as m_chael. rolleyes.gif
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« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2006, 09:08:00 AM »

QUOTE(incognegro @ Sep 24 2006, 06:46 AM) View Post

Oh no, kira is not gonna argue with a dude as knowledgable (sp?) as m_chael. rolleyes.gif


I'm guessing kira is someone on here thats likes to argue?
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« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2006, 09:17:00 AM »

QUOTE(m_hael @ Sep 24 2006, 11:15 AM) View Post

I'm guessing kira is someone on here thats likes to argue?


He is somebody that believes Sony is god’s gift to gaming. He try’s to sound smart but in reality he knows very little and try’s to pass off his opinion on things as fact. If you make any valid points that contradict his views, or say anything he thinks is negative towards Sony, he either makes up some BS or ignores it and try’s to changes the topic.

Or you could just call him a flaming Sony fan boy.
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« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2006, 11:19:00 AM »

QUOTE(thepissedoffman @ Sep 24 2006, 11:24 AM) View Post

I was going to get one once I could get the high end model for $300 or if there was some game that I just had to play. After seeing the picture from the TGS where the guy is using a fan to cool off the PS3 because it crashed I will also wait until I am pretty sure all the kinks are worked out of the PS3.

Sony is not going to be as nice as M$ is with fixing the problems with their system after the 90 day warranty. After having a launch PSX that over heated all the time and a launch PS2 that got DDEs 4 months after I bought it I am not going to get burnt again.

Screw me once Sony's fault. Screw my twice Sony's and my fault. Screw me three times and I am just an idiot.
He is somebody that believes Sony is god’s gift to gaming. He try’s to sound smart but in reality he knows very little and try’s to pass off his opinion on things as fact. If you make any valid points that contradict his views, or say anything he thinks is negative towards Sony, he either makes up some BS or ignores it and try’s to changes the topic.

Or you could just call him a flaming Sony fan boy.



Post of the week, No contest!
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« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2006, 01:21:00 PM »

QUOTE(nickthegreat @ Sep 24 2006, 09:36 AM) View Post

Does it break your NDA to give an opinion upon which system requires more effort to program for?


it doesn't break my NDA because I can give opinions based on public info.

360 has 3 symetrical cores, 2 threads each, shared memory, shared L2 cache, shared code
Ps3 has 1 PPU, 7 SPE's, no shared memory, no shared cache, no shared code.

inherently just from this standpoint 360 is far easier to program for having shared resources and symetrical execution units.

add to that the fact that sony is a hardware company NOT a software company meaning they don't make good tools. MS on the other hand is a software company and has VERY good tools.

its a no brainer.
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« Reply #21 on: September 24, 2006, 04:18:00 PM »

QUOTE(Kira Yamoto @ Aug 21 2006, 03:39 AM) View Post

The whole "harder-to-develop" thing is only a ploy by MS "AMERICAN" dev's that are totally biased against Sony.  

hes got you there........

QUOTE(Kira Yamoto @ Aug 21 2006, 07:05 PM) View Post

Because it IS mostly American developers complaining, and not only that, they're on 360's camp.  Thus, PROPAGANDA.  Show me some Japanese and European complaints, from a credible source, from a company that's making a known PS3 title and I'll back off.



------ what are your views on dvd9 mate, or resistance needing 22gigs? That would rap up another thread nicely smile.gif

edit: you fancy starring in a new sig of mine? wink.gif
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« Reply #22 on: September 24, 2006, 08:39:00 PM »

QUOTE(nickthegreat @ Sep 24 2006, 03:25 PM) View Post

what are your views on dvd9 mate, or resistance needing 22gigs? That would rap up another thread nicely smile.gif


most games utilize very little of the media they eventually publish on. Those that do come close to the maximum almost always get there due to music & video both of which are assets that can be and often are compressed; if they fit without being compressed and they don't prove a speed issue as far as reading is concerned then there is no point, they should use all the available space.

Resistance is undoutedly a nice looking game and it is supposed to represent the tech possible. I would venture a guess that Sony have decreed that it take up as much of the BR disk as possible just to show that "some" games will use it.

It should be noted that it may legitemately use all that space, but my 10 years of experience tell me otherwise; if they wanted it to be smaller, it would be.

Dvd9 is plenty for now, it may not be in the future and BR will at that point prove its point. For now its an expensive and unproved addition to an already struggling piece of hardware.


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Kira Yamoto

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« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2006, 10:35:00 PM »

I plan on getting a PS3, but I'm actually getting a Wii at launch.  I want to get Legend of Zelda: TP as I've been waiting for that game for ages.  That game will probably hold me over until Super Smash Bros Melee which me and my crew will own all ya mofos.

Btw, while you guys continue to talk nonsense about how hard it is to develop and whatnot, I'm STILL all about the games.  And that is still my #1 priority and experience with the industry.  Lets just keep this to an era for example.  I've owned a PS1, PS2, Dreamcast, Nintendo Gamecube, Xbox and have had friend's N64 and Sega Saturn to play.  I've played nearly every AAA game available for EACH CONSOLE, even to completion.   FACT is, that Playstation brand still posseses most of those AAA games that I've ever experienced.  Hell PS2 STILL continues to have more AAA titles in the past year alone, compared to Xbox 360.  This is why I argued with you guys and why you guys continue to not see my point, and still try to continue the argument in some way, shape or form.  I'm all about the games, you're all about the technology.  

Now that doesn't mean I'm not about the technology, but there's a limit to where I'm comfortable with a piece of technology, and become an installed user.  I don't know what kind of consumers you are, but obviously very biased (or very poor) one.  I can clearly see that PS3 is an awesome piece of technology, and so are the 360 and Wii in their own respective rights.  If I had enough money to buy a 360, then I sure as hell have the income to buy a PS3 and definitely a Wii.  Also considering that most of you have HDTV's to play this on, the price issue is really non-existant.  It's all in your bias.

My viewpoints on the PS3 come from the games and what kind of future that PS3 holds for the games and franchises that I like to play.  Most, if not all, of you don't see that.  When you see PS3 as doomed to fail, going by the price, technology or whatnot, I don't see it that way because I see PS3 as having a bright future to succeed, for the games alone.  That's why I don't accept your views, and how I am made to sound like a fanboy.  How am I a fanboy when I'm a true gamer? I play AAA games on ALL CONSOLES, including PC whenever I get the chance to play them.  To this day I'm still playing WoW which has 7mil+ subs and counting, its the TOP MMO in the market right now.

Everyone and their mama are going to be biased.  If M_hael and his colleagues think that PS3 isn't that good (based on a variety of factors including difficulty of work) then that's their own bias.  I've heard a developer talk in a video interview and he said that of course you're going to have your staff, and someone or a group of people are going to be biased.  There are some that's going to like the platform, and some that don't.  Well its what they're working on, so if work doesn't go easy for them, then they hate it.  Plain and simple, it happens in every workplace.  Most of what you read on the internet IS propaganda, no matter how you twist it, and I've proven that on some level, whether people want to accept it or not.  Clearly users here have not, because you're standing on one side of the spectrum and I'm standing here with only 1 or 2 people who aren't biased enough and more gamers than anything.

Ever since the Xbox, we've had tech geeks come in and talk about how their console was more powerful, how their system was more easier to program for, and after all this talk, PS2 still owned them.  Xbox had a chance to develop a slew of killer apps, and still to this day there's only a handful of real killer apps thats for everyone to play.  PS2 had that, and continues to have that (Okami anyone?) and it's a fucking FACT.  Anyone well versed in PS2 software library will tell you that you are flat out wrong, if you try to argue the last-gen's trio of games versus PS2.

In this new generation of consoles, there again exist the geeks that talk so much about technology, and the politics of it all, but still fail to realize that in the end, none of that matters b/c its gonna be about the games.  PS3 to me, has some titles that I want at launch, but the real killer titles I'm looking for aren't coming until next year.  The thing is, I KNOW that they're coming next year, and I know that I want them.  It's the same w/ the 360, until their next batch of killer titles comes out (Lost Planet, Lost Odyssey, and so on), I still won't buy one.  I don't want to buy Oblivion, DR and a few other titles and get stuck for the rest of the year, I finish games quickly so 1 or 2 games a month would be acceptable.

Some of you need to get a grip, and start thinking on a whole new level, and let go of the hate, let go of the bias and stop talking like a MS employee.  I might be biased towards Sony (for its franchises) but that still doesn't mean I'm not a gamer or a fanboy or whatever insults you want to throw at me.  I still know myself that I always end up getting every major consoles, and enjoy AAA games or exclusive games on that console.  That doesnt make me a fanboy.  That makes me a true gamer.

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« Reply #24 on: September 25, 2006, 12:07:00 AM »

QUOTE(Kira Yamoto @ Sep 24 2006, 10:42 PM) View Post

I plan on getting a PS3, but I'm actually getting a Wii at launch.  I want to get Legend of Zelda: TP as I've been waiting for that game for ages.  That game will probably hold me over until Super Smash Bros Melee which me and my crew will own all ya mofos.

Btw, while you guys continue to talk nonsense about how hard it is to develop and whatnot, I'm STILL all about the games.  And that is still my #1 priority and experience with the industry.  Lets just keep this to an era for example.  I've owned a PS1, PS2, Dreamcast, Nintendo Gamecube, Xbox and have had friend's N64 and Sega Saturn to play.  I've played nearly every AAA game available for EACH CONSOLE, even to completion.   FACT is, that Playstation brand still posseses most of those AAA games that I've ever experienced.  Hell PS2 STILL continues to have more AAA titles in the past year alone, compared to Xbox 360.  This is why I argued with you guys and why you guys continue to not see my point, and still try to continue the argument in some way, shape or form.  I'm all about the games, you're all about the technology.  

Now that doesn't mean I'm not about the technology, but there's a limit to where I'm comfortable with a piece of technology, and become an installed user.  I don't know what kind of consumers you are, but obviously very biased (or very poor) one.  I can clearly see that PS3 is an awesome piece of technology, and so are the 360 and Wii in their own respective rights.  If I had enough money to buy a 360, then I sure as hell have the income to buy a PS3 and definitely a Wii.  Also considering that most of you have HDTV's to play this on, the price issue is really non-existant.  It's all in your bias.

My viewpoints on the PS3 come from the games and what kind of future that PS3 holds for the games and franchises that I like to play.  Most, if not all, of you don't see that.  When you see PS3 as doomed to fail, going by the price, technology or whatnot, I don't see it that way because I see PS3 as having a bright future to succeed, for the games alone.  That's why I don't accept your views, and how I am made to sound like a fanboy.  How am I a fanboy when I'm a true gamer? I play AAA games on ALL CONSOLES, including PC whenever I get the chance to play them.  To this day I'm still playing WoW which has 7mil+ subs and counting, its the TOP MMO in the market right now.

Everyone and their mama are going to be biased.  If M_hael and his colleagues think that PS3 isn't that good (based on a variety of factors including difficulty of work) then that's their own bias.  I've heard a developer talk in a video interview and he said that of course you're going to have your staff, and someone or a group of people are going to be biased.  There are some that's going to like the platform, and some that don't.  Well its what they're working on, so if work doesn't go easy for them, then they hate it.  Plain and simple, it happens in every workplace.  Most of what you read on the internet IS propaganda, no matter how you twist it, and I've proven that on some level, whether people want to accept it or not.  Clearly users here have not, because you're standing on one side of the spectrum and I'm standing here with only 1 or 2 people who aren't biased enough and more gamers than anything.

Ever since the Xbox, we've had tech geeks come in and talk about how their console was more powerful, how their system was more easier to program for, and after all this talk, PS2 still owned them.  Xbox had a chance to develop a slew of killer apps, and still to this day there's only a handful of real killer apps thats for everyone to play.  PS2 had that, and continues to have that (Okami anyone?) and it's a fucking FACT.  Anyone well versed in PS2 software library will tell you that you are flat out wrong, if you try to argue the last-gen's trio of games versus PS2.

In this new generation of consoles, there again exist the geeks that talk so much about technology, and the politics of it all, but still fail to realize that in the end, none of that matters b/c its gonna be about the games.  PS3 to me, has some titles that I want at launch, but the real killer titles I'm looking for aren't coming until next year.  The thing is, I KNOW that they're coming next year, and I know that I want them.  It's the same w/ the 360, until their next batch of killer titles comes out (Lost Planet, Lost Odyssey, and so on), I still won't buy one.  I don't want to buy Oblivion, DR and a few other titles and get stuck for the rest of the year, I finish games quickly so 1 or 2 games a month would be acceptable.

Some of you need to get a grip, and start thinking on a whole new level, and let go of the hate, let go of the bias and stop talking like a MS employee.  I might be biased towards Sony (for its franchises) but that still doesn't mean I'm not a gamer or a fanboy or whatever insults you want to throw at me.  I still know myself that I always end up getting every major consoles, and enjoy AAA games or exclusive games on that console.  That doesnt make me a fanboy.  That makes me a true gamer.

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What was that, again?
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« Reply #25 on: September 25, 2006, 12:23:00 AM »

QUOTE(Foe-hammer @ Sep 25 2006, 07:14 AM) View Post

sleeping.gif

What was that, again?


It's not suprising that everytime I open myself to attacks you guys target that, and exploit it, but when I post something rock solid you claim its boring you to death and that you didn't hear it.  It's pretty obvious that the only thing you want to hear out of me is what you want to hear, for the purpose of making me look like a fool.

But even a lot of past posts I've made rarely make myself look like a fool, they still have plenty of solid logic in them.  It's just that some of my posts, the average person would want to avoid drama with.  Hence why the only people that harp on me are the people that are out there for this very purpose.

The fact that you can't intelligently respond further debunks everything that people have had to say about me.  In fact, all of the stuff that thepissedoffman said can be completely debunked by the following.

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He is somebody that believes Sony is god’s gift to gaming.


Since when did I ever believe that? But fact is, most AAA titles on consoles WAS and are CONTINUING to be released on PS2.  Therefore if I come across that way, that's because their console has had weak competition.  You guys act like MS is god's gift to gaming so why should that even be a factor in anything? I HAVE ACTUALLY PLAYED AAA TITLES ON ALL CONSOLES UP UNTIL THIS POINT  How many of you can truly say that you have that experience? It's pretty expensive anywho.

He try’s to sound smart

I don't have to try to sound smart, I know I am.  That is why people like you continue to say stuff like this. I don't have to defend myself but I would like to point out the logic behind such an accusation.

but in reality he knows very little

I don't deny that I don't know a lot about the technicalities or whatnot, but instead of the rampant fanboyism and hate, I make common sense clear, and because of that common sense, I don't HAVE to know a lot.  The main point that I made when technicalities are argued against me, was using a persons OWN knowledge and topics against them.  To which NONE have ever produced a valid argument.  Of all the arguments that has been proven with rock solid evidence, I have never argued against.

and try’s to pass off his opinion on things as fact.

I rarely spout my opinion in an argument.  And when I do provide my opinion, I make sure that it cannot be argued against, or else I will make you look like a fool.

If you make any valid points that contradict his views, or say anything he thinks is negative towards Sony, he either makes up some BS or ignores it and try’s to changes the topic.

It depends on what's negative that's being said about it.  If you say something that completely stupid concerning the negativity, then i'm going all out on you.  Since the mods have done something about that, I won't do it anymore and will continue to ignore it, b/c I know most of you are wrong.  What I come back with isn't BS. It's called ignorance (on your part), just like what Foe-Hammer exhibited.  If I ever say anything that defeats or severely weakens your point, then you'll just chalk it up as BS.  In which I ignore because I think that people like you are BS for even posting crap in the 1st place.  I never try to change topic, I leave it.
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« Reply #26 on: September 25, 2006, 12:59:00 AM »

btw, how bad does it look that in a thread about getting a ps3 and a wii, the common trolls floods the thread with stuff about me? And trying to sell the idea that I'm one way or the other which is completely off topic. I say the irrelevant stuff should be deleted so it can get back to being on topic.
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« Reply #27 on: September 25, 2006, 01:19:00 AM »

QUOTE(Kira Yamoto @ Sep 25 2006, 12:30 AM) View Post

It's not suprising that everytime I open myself to attacks you guys target that, and exploit it, but when I post something rock solid you claim its boring you to death and that you didn't hear it.  It's pretty obvious that the only thing you want to hear out of me is what you want to hear, for the purpose of making me look like a fool.

But even a lot of past posts I've made rarely make myself look like a fool, they still have plenty of solid logic in them.  It's just that some of my posts, the average person would want to avoid drama with.  Hence why the only people that harp on me are the people that are out there for this very purpose.

The fact that you can't intelligently respond further debunks everything that people have had to say about me.  In fact, all of the stuff that thepissedoffman said can be completely debunked by the following.
Since when did I ever believe that? But fact is, most AAA titles on consoles WAS and are CONTINUING to be released on PS2.  Therefore if I come across that way, that's because their console has had weak competition.  You guys act like MS is god's gift to gaming so why should that even be a factor in anything? I HAVE ACTUALLY PLAYED AAA TITLES ON ALL CONSOLES UP UNTIL THIS POINT  How many of you can truly say that you have that experience? It's pretty expensive anywho.

He try’s to sound smart

I don't have to try to sound smart, I know I am.  That is why people like you continue to say stuff like this. I don't have to defend myself but I would like to point out the logic behind such an accusation.

but in reality he knows very little

I don't deny that I don't know a lot about the technicalities or whatnot, but instead of the rampant fanboyism and hate, I make common sense clear, and because of that common sense, I don't HAVE to know a lot.  The main point that I made when technicalities are argued against me, was using a persons OWN knowledge and topics against them.  To which NONE have ever produced a valid argument.  Of all the arguments that has been proven with rock solid evidence, I have never argued against.

and try’s to pass off his opinion on things as fact.

I rarely spout my opinion in an argument.  And when I do provide my opinion, I make sure that it cannot be argued against, or else I will make you look like a fool.

If you make any valid points that contradict his views, or say anything he thinks is negative towards Sony, he either makes up some BS or ignores it and try’s to changes the topic.

It depends on what's negative that's being said about it.  If you say something that completely stupid concerning the negativity, then i'm going all out on you.  Since the mods have done something about that, I won't do it anymore and will continue to ignore it, b/c I know most of you are wrong.  What I come back with isn't BS. It's called ignorance (on your part), just like what Foe-Hammer exhibited.  If I ever say anything that defeats or severely weakens your point, then you'll just chalk it up as BS.  In which I ignore because I think that people like you are BS for even posting crap in the 1st place.  I never try to change topic, I leave it.

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I'm really sorry; come again?
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« Reply #28 on: September 25, 2006, 01:27:00 AM »

QUOTE(Foe-hammer @ Sep 25 2006, 08:26 AM) View Post

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I'm really sorry; come again?


sucky mi dicko bitcho

and don't say that attack was unwarranted, what people posted in here was unwarranted and uncalled for, especially when I started my post on topic.
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« Reply #29 on: September 25, 2006, 01:50:00 AM »

let me just add that how would it feel, to walk into a thread that you wanted to discuss, only to find someone or a group of people littering the thread with a bunch of crap about you?  What kind of maturity level does that show for the people that supposedly would not stoop to my level of insulting people w/ offensive language?  What does it show, when people continually provoke or bait me in every thread, yet only to be proven false.

At least I blew up naturally after being provoked, you people that did this and responded to it out of the blue are a lot worse than any of my language ever is.  If a mod decides to take action, I request that the mod take this into account if an action is to be taken.
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