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you really are mistaken. no one is saying its "bad"
The literal meaning of "bad" wasn't quite what I meant. Not everything is in black and white as you would like it to be. What I meant was that the severity of the flaws that people are talking about wouldn't be as severe as what people thought before launch. For instance, one of the defenses I had for the 360 was the pros for the pricepoint. When it came time to be released, it wasn't as bad as people thought it was. People accepted it and it even became the dominant system package that people purchased.
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you really dont have a probem bashing it now though do you?
No, I don't, but thats until AFTER I review the system. Not before.
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obvious someone as unbiased as you would know/agree (like the majority of the world) that sony has done much wrong with the launches of their consoles.
Every company does. &? Nintendo DS had average to above average launch, but CRAP games all across the board (EU, JP, US) and had a 1 year dry spell. PSP had an average launch with some gems, but had a 1 year dry spell. PS2's had a sell-out launch, including some gems, but had a 1 year dry spell. Dreamcast had an amazing launch, but the 1st year was slow just like any other system. Xbox had an okay launch, and Halo took off (but that was about it) Xbox also had a 1 year dry spell. The 360 is no different. I don't need to repeat myself for you to get the point. But in the 360's case we got some gems along the year at a faster rate than the older consoles.
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WAY over hyping the capabilities
Wii was so overhyped that it was gonna be the revolutionary system that the last E3 was a success for them, based off the fact that they up until then, have not released any info about it's games, or its accessories. They did in fact release info about their controller, but still no sign of any games, or how revolutionary its controller would have an effect on games.
MS touted the fact that their 3 general processors and superior memory architecture offered an edge over the PS3. They got people from their camp on basically every interview repeating what the VP keeps saying over and over.
I do agree that Sony did it back in the PS2 days pre-E3 and TGS, but this time, they've toned down compared to those days where they were making ridiculous claims, and giving us tech-demos that were way too good to be true (revealed that, that was under an enviornment specifically created for the demo) Even went as far as proved the system they were playing on was real when they paused and moved the camera around (to prove its real-time) and those were from 2 games, 1 currently out (FNR3) and 1 slated for launch on PC,PS3 and 360 (UT2k7)
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horrible shortages
Where were you at 360's launch? In fact, 360's launch had such horrible shortages that people were pissed that they didn't get one in time for christmas, and that others were being gouged online on ebay. People couldn't purchase a 360 straight from the store unless they kept track of a retail store's shipments, and even then, couldn't walk into a store to buy one any day they wanted until 6 months after launch. That's pretty damn bad.
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design flaws
Ok I give you that. But just about every console has design flaws. GCN's caused it to overheat and freeze games, DC's caused it to display screwed textures, PS2's DRE, Xbox's overheat and error msg, 360's disc scractching and overheating issues, list goes on.
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cocky attitudes
And MS and Nintendo weren't? Nintendo went even as far as call their system revolutionary. MS went as far as saying their 360 was better than the PS3 even though they had no concrete info. Granted, Ken K. came off more cockier because he was more blunt, but after 2 console successes he has a right to. Heck I'd do the same thing if I was in his position. Nintendo lost 64 and GCN. MS lost Xbox. Sony won Playstation 1 and 2. From 1995-2006, the years of their success, that's pretty huge, even you would have to admit that is impressive.
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finally after the whole ps2 and psp debacles people are taking a closer look at how sony is handling their launch and respecting (or disrespecting) the consumers. the comment "we could sell 5 million consoles even without games" that sony made does not really speak highly of fanboys like you now does it? showing rendered cut scenes as game footage, over bloating specs, hyping the console beyond reality, and going beyond trash talking when commenting on the competitors is sony's usual strategy for console launches.
Not all consumers pay attention to the media. But consumers do pay attention to track record and going as far back as 1995, consumers have faith in the brand. I don't know how many times I need to repeat that. Ok, so Sony aren't the best at making statements, but they do deliver, even if not at the level that people expected at 1st. Later on, people see the games that made the console worth buying such as MGS2-3, SotC, God of War, GT series, Tekken 5 and so on.
I do agree that they do go overboard, but its nothing that other companies won't do. Nintendo was so damn cocky, in that they said, let the other companies duke it out, we're out to make games, and we are the revolution. That's saying a hell of a lot don't you think? When the revolutionary part of the console was released, we found that it was a remote control! Not only that, we saw no mind-blowing applications (even at e3) except only a new gimmick that could
possibly be a way to change our experiences forever. I'd quote MS too, but only Nintendo since they made the grandest hype and cockiest attitude of them all.
heres one my posts from before the 360 launch, I had some others that were in heated debate over the new steps MS was taking (higher price point, optional accessories) but they were purged
http://www.shoryuken...p;postcount=206