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[RadATI]

Ok, this has been mentioned a lot but please just think deeply about it for 1 second.

We all know that Sony is selling their new Blu-Ray player for $1000.00 and their PS3 for about $400 to $500.

If this is correct, then the PS3 IS a Blu-Ray player and MORE. And yet it costs less? Why buy the Blu-Ray player when you can buy the PS3 for less?? DUMB SONY

If $ony wants to make a profit out of their PS3 They would lose about $600 to $700 dollars everytime they sell a PS3 and would have to sell Over $700 to $800 dollars in games and accesories. That's (assuming each game costs $60 dollars) over TWELVE games? When there are only THREE games at launch? Statistics show that most people don't even buy over 8 games for a console.

BTW SONY FANS, I HOPE YOU ENJOY YOUR 1080P HD(BS) CGI TRAILERS WHILE WE XBOX PEOPLE PLAY HALO 3   .

WTH is SONY doing?

UNLESS, OR COURSE, THEY ARE LYING LIKE THEY ALWAYS DO.  

[Master X]

QUOTE(RadATI @ Mar 25 2006, 02:29 PM)

Ok, this has been mentioned a lot but please just think deeply about it for 1 second.

We all know that Sony is selling their new Blu-Ray player for $1000.00 and their PS3 for about $400 to $500.

If this is correct, then the PS3 IS a Blu-Ray player and MORE. And yet it costs less? Why buy the Blu-Ray player when you can buy the PS3 for less?? DUMB SONY

If $ony wants to make a profit out of their PS3 They would lose about $600 to $700 dollars everytime they sell a PS3 and would have to sell Over $700 to $800 dollars in games and accesories. That's (assuming each game costs $60 dollars) over TWELVE games? When there are only THREE games at launch? Statistics show that most people don't even buy over 8 games for a console.

BTW SONY FANS, I HOPE YOU ENJOY YOUR 1080P HD(BS) CGI TRAILERS WHILE WE XBOX PEOPLE PLAY HALO 3   .

WTH is SONY doing?

UNLESS, OR COURSE, THEY ARE LYING LIKE THEY ALWAYS DO.  

They are lying...... Were is that damn picture when I need it

[RadATI]

You mean the BS 1



Or the BS 2



Both made with no knowledge

[Master X]

BS1, although BS2 is probably more then they stated.

[RadATI]

Just again to all you sony fans

I HOPE YOU ENJOY YOUR 1080P HD(BS) CGI TRAILERS WHILE WE XBOX PEOPLE PLAY HALO 3

[Chancer]

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If $ony wants to make a profit out of their PS3 They would lose about $600 to $700 dollars everytime they sell a PS3

Retail estimates are not cost per unit to sell to Sony though, so the actual loss in revenue is not the difference in retail price.
All these Sony this and Sony that statements are hype, speculation and in some part worry.
the main thing is if you are happy with your console be it a 360 or whatever, then don't fret about what is round the corner. It shouldn't matter to you....unless you have shares in Sony.
Personally I like the 360, but I will also buy a PS3 as well. I just like games consoles. I won't lose any sleep over who loses money where. If I can get the games I like and play the machines and I enjoy it it doesn't matter what's written on the box.

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WHILE WE XBOX PEOPLE PLAY HALO 3

Be careful on assuming certain things in relation to games releases etc. You sound worried by Sony. why does it concern you?
You are happy with the 360 I take it.
What is so wrong with having something Sony. (I fail to understand the logic, its like  some sort of envy)
Moving to PS3 section as its nothing really to do with 360 more Sony and their accounts

[RadATI]

But if Sony would like to play it smart, shouldn't they sell the PS3 with a higher price tag than their BD-Players?

[Chancer]

It would depend what market they were aiming for with each piece of kit.
If you look from another perspective people who may never by a stand alone player may be swung to buy a console and have a compromise of both.
The stand alone player will be far superior to the console if my past dealings with consoles mean anything.
Example
My 360 is great for games can't fault it... but my standalone DVD player has it beaten to bits for watching a DVD film. Yes the DVD can be played by the 360 but the quality is not  as good so I would not buy the 360 and have no other stand alone player.
what I am trying to say is that people with no interests in the console gaming side may well still be interested in the player which will be purpose built with no thought having to go into features for games consoles and it should be better specified for its job. These will still sell.
Others who are games fans could still be swayed to the console as it has the added benefit of Blu-ray playback
even though a lot of the features may not be as good or the quality.
Hardcore gamers will not want to shell out $1000 plus just to get the main focus which is games.

[DragoNs]

QUOTE(RadATI @ Mar 25 2006, 05:42 PM)

WHILE WE XBOX PEOPLE PLAY HALO 3

who said all people that own a xbox like halo? i own xbox 1 and 360, halo is a terrible game imo, so i guess, i WILL have fun with my ps3 when i buy it well you have fun with a game that some xbox players hate, like me.

[AClayeJ]

I love my 360, but I also loved my PS2 when I played it too. As well as my Xbox. I'm a gamer, I play games. Period. No matter what system it's on. When the PS3 comes out, I will buy it, I will play it. That doesn't mean I'll throw my 360 down when it does though. There's games to be found on both systems. I intend to play them. If you're a fanboy of any system, you're missing out on a lot.    Why own just one system? That's stupid. IMO

[RadATI]

One thing is, I can only afford to get ONE of the systems. And I don't want to feel bad about my purchase. Second, I hate the idea of same games being on 2 systems and you own both of those systems. Just makes a hard choice nearly everytime you buy a game.

Third, the ps3 will have about 3 games at launch, while the Xbox 360, at that time, will have up to 60, or 90 games including arcade games.

Fourth, I doubt that Blu-Ray will win over HD-DVD. When Blu-Ray appears on the market, there would be serious "skipping" problems with the reading of the disc. So a slight movement of a Blu-Ray drive would cause the laser to be off guard in reading. (One of the reasons why the Sony BD-Player is so big and heavy)
HD-DVDs on the otherhand, will be more precise when reading discs due to the larger grooves on the disc per layer. Plus, it is RED  rayed with shorter wavelenghts which means that the laser on an HD-DVD would much more easily detect Binary codes on an HD-DVD disc.

Go RED!


HD-DVD = 10^-7 micrometer wavelength

Blu-Rau = 10^-8 micrometer wavelength

Nearly TEN times the difference in wavelengths

edit: redid graphs

[Exist2Resist]

What you have to realize about the Playstation3 is that the blue ray laser is going to be a pice of crap just like all the other first release lasers in the PS2. Thats why sony will be able to sell it for less, and because the system will be more wide spread than the player, and because they also have game sales to backup the system purchase. In the end it all evens out and thats why sony can sell the system for less than the BD-Player. In the end i think Blue Ray is suicide neways, sony doesnt didctate policy and the Two largest Computer based companies are backing HD-DVD, Intel and M$, so are about 12 movie studios (around that number) last time i checked. The only reson theyre sticking to blu ray is because that will prevent you the end user from copying the games. cough*bullshit*cough, if the disc reader is able to read dvd's then you can copy games, because im sorry but i dont know of any game that exceeds 9GB, so you will be able to copy games because if blue ray sticks around(i hope not), but if it does there will be blue ray dvd roms which means we will have a way of reading the discs. On another note, putting linux at the heart of the console is another bad, bad decision, looks like they havent learned from M$ mistakes or at least havent put them into consideration, definately should have been a custom OS not linux.


Peace

[Chancer]

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What you have to realize about the Playstation3 is that the blue ray laser is going to be a pice of crap just like all the other first release lasers in the PS2.

Could we have some inside technical info to back up you statement please. That is pure speculation on your part.

[RadATI]

QUOTE(Chancer @ Mar 29 2006, 03:10 AM)

Could we have some inside technical info to back up you statement please. That is pure speculation on your part.

First of All Toshiba, NEC, Sanyo, and, most recently, MS, HP, and Intel are backing up HD-DVD

Put it this way Imagine Blu-Ray reading is like counting Concrete (ground) bumps while on a car going 60 mph on a highway at night. This would be very hard!

No imagine HD-DVD. Counting the same bumps with the same eyes going 40 mph and during the day. This would still be hard but MUCH, MUCH, easier.

Samething with disc drives.

Blue laser is like night  BD-ROM is like 60 mph (don't ratio these, they're just metaphors)

edit: HD_DVD is BLUE laser :  is like day  HD-DVD-ROM is like 40 mph

[CAjr45]

AND to add on to this BS

how could a ps3 efficiently run linux with 256 ram and 256 vid ram(which i think the OS will not grab from video ram)

so the cell wont be running so fast on linux as sony wants you to think



and another this might not be BS but its such a bad idea you just buried yourself sony

making the online service (online gaming. basically XBL gold) free will put you into so much debt unless you can make up for that in ps3 sales and game sells which is like 600-700$ console and 65-75$ for games

good luck in the market sony. your really gonna need it