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[Martinchris23]

QUOTE(h4xx3d @ Dec 16 2006, 06:27 PM)

It honestly doesn't bother me. Yes, it's ugly as hell. But I'm willing to hold off playing older titles for now. I'm confident it will be fixed soon. I've got Resistance and Blazing Angels to tide me over till then. If this were a few month's after release, I'd be pissed. But it's not...

And I see what you mean about the price argument. It just bothers me seeing people complaining so much about the price. The idea was not to say the 360's a ripoff, I'm a very happy 360 owner. It was merely to put things into perspective. That even if you don't want everything that's included, it's not that bad of a deal.

Taking into account that the BC games are processed by hardware, I really hope they are able to sort this. Personally I don't think they can or they would have done it. It's just looking like a rush job TBH.

My problem is that a lot of people are buying the PS3 because they have attained a huge back catalog of PS2 games and have spent their Xmas budget on the console itself. To now play these games in lower quality would really be a kick in the teeth. You're right - for the money, you're getting a lot. However, it's all in vain unless the games make use of the hardware. If you were looking for a BR player then it would be a cheap alternative to a standalone unit. That's IF you were already willing to spend $999 on one anyway (and would obviously have the money to do so!). I don't want to continue the OT stuff on this thread, so I'll leave it there.

I think Sony could should have been more open about the functionality of the BC games. They have lost a lot of loyal supporters over the last 12 months and unless they change their marketing strategy, they'll lose a lot more. This isn't a two horse race this time - the Wii is being hailed as the saviour of games consoles.....

Martin

[Pheidias]

Or are you given a blueray player for free because sony want to win a format war? Production cost might point to that...

Either way this just makes me want a wii even more

[epsilon72]

Fanboyism aside, here's some more insight into the problem -

This is a post from the playstation forums, apparently it's some guy who is in frequent contact with the sony techs-

The tech from Sony did offer a very broad explanation of what the problem was, for anyone who is interested. He  said that, apparently, they are having alot of problems with PS2  emulation on the PS3.  I then pointed out that the PS3 doesn't use  emulation because it has the PS2s Emotion Engine built into it. He  said that was correct, and that the Emotion Engine was rendering the  graphics, but that the PS3 was still Emulating the PS2s Operating  System, and that's where they are having problems. This  actually makes sense.  This could be why some 480i games look OK, and  why a small handful of 480p games still look horrible.  It just depends  on whether the game is reliant on aspects of the OS that aren't being  emulated properly. Unfortuneately, this could  also mean that this may not be a single patch solution.  We may be  looking at a 360 situation here where multiple patches, slowly expands  the list of Backwards Compatible games over time.  Then again, what do  I know? In the end, this information doesn't help us get this problem solved any faster.  I just thought some here might be interested.

http://boardsus.play...o...ing&page=76

I hope the problem gets fixed soon.  It's pretty pathetic that they didn't fix this problem before launch.  What's strange though is that my PS2 has the same problem.

In that thread (for those who haven't read it) the cause of the jaggies is that lines of pixels are being "flipped", distorting the image.  There's a lot of pictures of the phenomenon on the first page.

[h4xx3d]

Thanks for the info Epsilon   I see that as good news. There is hope that it will be fixable through software updates. I'd suppose it does make sense that there is emulation involved, otherwise all games would have worked 100% out of the box and there would be no need for a compatibility list at all.

[Kid Flash]

wow... the graphics are horrible on the ps3... and thats a really good game... well either way i dont have the money for a ps3 so hopefully sony fixes it by the time i do.

[Mr Invader]

i still say that there is no reason to buy a next-gen console if you plan on playing old outdated games, why don't you just save your $500 and buy 10 or more games with it?

[Pheidias]

Guess they fixed this with the 1.5 firmware, good job

[incognegro]

QUOTE(Pheidias @ Jan 24 2007, 11:14 AM)

Guess they fixed this with the 1.5 firmware, good job

Really?

Thats not what I heard,

Anybody that actually has a ps3 can confirm this?

[Pheidias]

What can I say, you heard wrong... maybe you should reconsider who you listen too

[griffin XXI]

QUOTE(Mr Invader @ Jan 4 2007, 10:34 PM)

i still say that there is no reason to buy a next-gen console if you plan on playing old outdated games, why don't you just save your $500 and buy 10 or more games with it?

 
Just hearing/thinking about BC in new gens, is more time than should be allowed. BC is RIDICULOUS and an absolute waste of everyones time. Play games on the their respective console!