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[incognegro]

I dont get it , what did they do wrong in the first place? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)


Im pissed off like everyone else, I got all my gp2x stuff from that place. I just dont know where to place my anger yet.

This post has been edited by incognegro: Oct 24 2006, 08:21 PM

[twistedsymphony]

QUOTE(Pheidias @ Oct 24 2006, 01:22 PM)

I gotta agree abit with the sony statment that is out now though. Seems abit strange to go out of business cos of lawsuits if you didn't pay nor invest any money in it. And the "classical" investigatory purposes quote is  

Sony is bringing an individual lawsuit against them from each and every country in europe... considering the lawsuites are for Trademark infringment (which puts the payout into the MILLIONS) and the fact that Lik-Sang lost the first of many lawsuits which sets a presidence (meaning all of the other impending lawsuits are a sure Loss for Lik-Sang)

Lik-Sang basically can see the wave coming and while they might have made it through the first they know they wont make it through ALL of them...  Rather then just hangining on they've decided to close up shop before they loose what little money they have left. With the remaining capitol they're refunding customers who have pending orders...

If they decided to just hang on for the ride Sony would get all of their money and Lik-Sang customers would be completely screwed out of the money they've sent Lik-Sang.

They're basically doing THE RIGHT THING taking the moral high road and putting their customers before themselves.

[twistedsymphony]

QUOTE(incognegro @ Oct 24 2006, 02:51 PM)

I dont get it , what did they do wrong in the first place?
Im pissed off like everyone else, I got all my gp2x stuff from that place. I just dont know where to place my anger yet.

They didn't do anything wrong really...

The un official assumed Reason Sony sued them: Lik-Sang was selling Japanese PSPs to the european market, Japanese PSPs are cheaper to import then to buy locally, even if the practice is PERFECTLY LEGAL Sony didn't appreciate the fact that it undermined their inflated European pricing, or the fact that they provided not only better prices but earlier demaned making Sony look bad because a small company could deliver Sony products better and faster then Sony themselves. NO WHERE has Sony actually come out and said that this is the case, this is simply the assumed reason behind it.

The official documented reason for the lawsuit: Trademark Infringment, Sony basically claimed that since Lik-Sang was selling PSPs before the product was officially released in Europe they were infringing on Sony's PSP trademark making European consumers believe that the PSP was actually a Lik-Sang Product.   I challange you to find a single person in all of europe who actually believe the PSP is make by Lik-Sang.

The offiical reason Sony has reported to the press: Japanese spec PSPs didn't meet European safty and power certifications and they (Sony) were just looking out for the European consumers... this is an outright LIE considering that it has NOTHING to do with the lawsuits.

Also considering the fact that the PSP was actually certified in europe. the included power adapters were not only configurably for both 120V and 240V but they also carried the "CE" logo which means they're Certified for use in Europe. Most companies make one set of hardware and certify it everywhere before they sell it anywhere even if there are small tweaks between regions. Those of you who live in the US can check your Xbox, PS2 or even your PSP if you got one and I guarantee it carries the CE logo on both the unit and the power adapter.

Anyone who claims "Lik-Sang got what they deserved" has no idea what this lawsuit was really about.

Not to mention Lik-Sang was one of the largest manufacturers of Controller adapters... good luck finding adapters to use your PS2 controller on your PC or your Xbox, or your Gamecube, or any future consoles.

The last manufacturer was going out of business a couple of years ago and Lik-Sang bought them out and kept them running to keep the market alive... not that Lik-Sang is gone, so are all the adapters. They were also one of the largest manufacturers of Cable extenders and 3rd party AV cables. (They were the ones who made the Smart Joy Frag... you can kiss any hopes and dreams of a Keyboard and mouse adapter for the 360 or PS3 goodbye).

Lik-Sang was more then just a simple importer Sony just annihilated a substantial portion of the 3rd party market.

[Pheidias]

I'm not sure about this but my understanding is that you won't be needing a adapter to hook up your mouse and keyboard to the ps3, and you really shouldn't with the x360 either what else are you gonna use the usb ports for? Lik-sang has been a zit sony MS and Nintendo has wanted to pop for ever. They all probably celebrated this with Crystal and hookers somewhere..

[throwingks]

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The Smart Frag Joy lets you use mouse and keyboard for in-game use. Pretty much giving you a huge advantage over anyone using a controller. I think all 3 camps are glad that device is gone because it is a form of cheating. I am not so sure they are all glad Lik-Sang is gone though. Sales are sales. All 3 are in the game for $$$.

[incognegro]

Thanx twisted for clearing that up.

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Lik-sang has been a zit sony MS and Nintendo has wanted to pop for ever

Why would it bother MS and Nintendo? I can understand sony...

[twistedsymphony]

QUOTE(Pheidias @ Oct 24 2006, 04:30 PM)

I'm not sure about this but my understanding is that you won't be needing a adapter to hook up your mouse and keyboard to the ps3, and you really shouldn't with the x360 either what else are you gonna use the usb ports for? Lik-sang has been a zit sony MS and Nintendo has wanted to pop for ever. They all probably celebrated this with Crystal and hookers somewhere..

The PS2 offered mouse support to but it didn't mean you could use it in any game you wanted to.

If a game is going to natively support the mouse as a controller the game needs to be specifically coded to use the mouse. Despite the fact that Sony didn't have any rules against using a mouse there were only 1 or 2 games that were actually programed to use one.

Lik-Sang made a PS2 Smart Joy FRAG for this very reason... basically it emulates a controller so you can use it with any game on the console, not just the ones were the developer decided to add support.

Even though the PS3 will allow for mouse use I highly doubt you'll see very many games actually support it.

[Pheidias]

Incognegro lik-sang even if they did reboot, got sued (and shutdown) by MS in 2002 for selling modchips, apparently the big N also had a beef with them selling flashcarts.

[incognegro]

QUOTE(Pheidias @ Oct 25 2006, 06:20 AM)

Incognegro lik-sang even if they did reboot, got sued (and shutdown) by MS in 2002 for selling modchips, apparently the big N also had a beef with them selling flashcarts.

I see......still kinda sux that theyre gone though, I was planning on buy a TV out for my gp2x

[Xombe]

QUOTE(DragoNs @ Oct 25 2006, 01:29 AM)

As a sony fan, ill just say rofl lik-sang got pooned and got what they deserved for getting theirself into this lawsuit anyways.

I have to say, even amongst the legion of posts I see in all corners of these forums, even the ones that get swept away before you have a chance to see them, that statement is the single most uninformed, ignorant, nonsenese post I've come across in many, many months.

[Heretic-666]

QUOTE(Xombe @ Oct 26 2006, 12:58 AM)

I have to say, even amongst the legion of posts I see in all corners of these forums, even the ones that get swept away before you have a chance to see them, that statement is the single most uninformed, ignorant, nonsenese post I've come across in many, many months.

No thats what this poorly moderated ps3 board is for, tons of BS.

[DragoNs]

QUOTE(Xombe @ Oct 25 2006, 07:58 PM)

I have to say, even amongst the legion of posts I see in all corners of these forums, even the ones that get swept away before you have a chance to see them, that statement is the single most uninformed, ignorant, nonsenese post I've come across in many, many months.

heh, i posted that as a joke to get something out of the 4 people on this board that always like to talk back to anything i post. those people unnamed who think im some crazy sony only fan, which i was rather surprized not to see them quoting me and saying things like omg xbox poons sony or some stupid remark like that, delete that post if you wish as im not gaining anything from it cause it was a stupid joke, if you read further into the thread and saw me joking around even more. Any time i would try to post something serious on these boards id get flamed or something stupid like that, so now im just joking around untill the PS3 is released and maybe these boards will get better moderation.

[Pheidias]

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eh, i posted that as a joke to get something out of the 4 people on this board that always like to talk back to anything i post. those people unnamed who think im some crazy sony only fan, which i was rather surprized not to see them quoting me and saying things like omg xbox poons sony or some stupid remark like that,

 

But you must surely know that those four are the best most intelligent people in the world and have been sent out by their master B.G to tell the world about the Xbox and to crap on everyone that doesn't share their opinion.  

[yourM0M]

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)  no its the few posts above that ruin the ps3 section just like every other thread, none of you can stay on topic or add anything worth something.......thread crap some more....it has nothing to do with the moderators its the users

[Pheidias]

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it has nothing to do with the moderators its the users

True on all accounts