there have been many flops, the cube was a flop, i mean there where games for it, but not quite the selection of ps2, ps2 even seemed to cast a shadow on xbox, and i always liked the xbox over ps2. sony has had such a popularity stronghold since the ps2, which i dont find to be a better system than the cube. my graphics and game play where better on my cube on the same titles for ps2. i just hope the game barrage is on, and good titles. whoever has the best variety of next gen games is going to win the battle b/w ps3 and 360. the fact that they claim to blow the 360 away with there 1080, and now are dancing around the truth is proof enough for me. ill stick with my 360 im very pleased with it so far. it could be better, but time will tell. so far the only game that has disappointed me is over g fighters. i had top gun memories from my nintendo, just a bit better graphics. games like this have no place on or harness the power of a nextgen console. im lookin forward to gears of war, hopefully this will be as great as they say it will be. so 1 outta 13 games i own is substandard thats a pretty good success rate.