Topic: Ps3 Game Takes 22 Gigs On Blu-ray Disc (Read 436 times)

redwolf · « **on:** August 22, 2006, 02:42:00 PM »

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PlayStation 3 launch title Resistance: Fall of Man will reportedly take a staggering 22 gigabytes of storage space using the PS3's Blu-ray disc format.
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Other key details from the article:

* motion-sensing functions will allow you to rifle butt aliens by jabbing out one side of the PS3 controller
* Sony claims that the online experience will exceed Xbox Live titles
* 40-player online games, with some form of ranking system

http://www.gametrail...ews.php?id=3539

KAGE360 · « **Reply #1 on:** August 22, 2006, 02:48:00 PM »

that has to be uncompressed and sloppy coding as all hell. graphics do not take up that much space

Kira Yamoto · « **Reply #2 on:** August 22, 2006, 03:35:00 PM »

dude you're not even a developer so stfu. All you're doing is trying to rile up and downplay these companies that know 10x better than you do. You know exactly who youre downplaying? These guys are Insomniac games, they're a well known and respected developer. I trust they know wtf they're doing.

gcskate27 · « **Reply #3 on:** August 22, 2006, 03:40:00 PM »

and youre not a dev either... how big was fear or any other recent comp title? 5 gigs tops?

requiring tons of space != great game

Kira Yamoto · « **Reply #4 on:** August 22, 2006, 03:47:00 PM »

QUOTE(gcskate27 @ Aug 22 2006, 10:47 PM)

and youre not a dev either... how big was fear or any other recent comp title? 5 gigs tops?

requiring tons of space != great game

no one ever said that, nor did I claim to know. But what I said was pure common sense.

Kira Yamoto · « **Reply #5 on:** August 22, 2006, 04:08:00 PM »

QUOTE(Mojiba @ Aug 22 2006, 11:04 PM)

I was wandering if it could be 22gb exclusively of well developed game content, but, when they say something like "We're going to fit more on a Blu-Ray disc than you could on an HD DVD", well, I think it's clear that's not the case since they are concerned about something that's not necessarily their game.

Well, if theyre cramming 22gb of game content of course theyre gonna say they fit more than they could on a HDDVD considering that HDDVD is only 15gb. I want to see especially what kind of game content and extras they got on this thing. I never played their Ratchet and Clank titles, but from what I hear they're above average quality games. I'm more excited with Resistance as it's looking great, and the game premise appeals to me.

lex_luther23 · « **Reply #6 on:** August 22, 2006, 04:09:00 PM »

All for show thats all it is to make it look like the blueray is needed.

Mojiba · « **Reply #7 on:** August 22, 2006, 04:20:00 PM »

QUOTE(lex_luther23 @ Aug 22 2006, 11:16 PM)

All for show thats all it is to make it look like the blueray is needed.

And it is =) I'm not sure about it, but I think developers have no other choice, PS3 games will exclusively come in BR discs, they must find a way to fill them =) It'll be fun to see some time in the future, when people start to "back up" his games, to take a 22gb game and burn it in a DVD5 just compressing video and getting out trailers =)

yourM0M · « **Reply #8 on:** August 22, 2006, 05:02:00 PM »

have any of you looked at the gameplay footage on gt.com of this game?? LMAO its a joke, looks more like half-life/doom all over again, the graphics are not amazing and the audio was generic, insomniac claims otherwise in their interview and that the graphics and audio justified the "insane" amount of storage space.....more like 20gigs of non-gameplay data

hamwbone · « **Reply #9 on:** August 22, 2006, 05:14:00 PM »

call of duty and doom 3 mated!!!

Mr Invader · « **Reply #10 on:** August 22, 2006, 08:15:00 PM »

QUOTE(Kira Yamoto @ Aug 22 2006, 05:15 PM)

Well, if theyre cramming 22gb of game content of course theyre gonna say they fit more than they could on a HDDVD considering that HDDVD is only 15gb. I want to see especially what kind of game content and extras they got on this thing. I never played their Ratchet and Clank titles, but from what I hear they're above average quality games. I'm more excited with Resistance as it's looking great, and the game premise appeals to me.

wrong about only 15gb of info on an hd-dvd. It's 15gb of information per layer. HD-DVDs can have multiple layers with 3 layers being the highest out in the market right now. thats 45gb of info. Single layer bul-rays are out on the market right now with 25gb. Many dual layer blu-rays are testing right now but thanks to such a high defect rate on single and double layer blu-rays, they are likely to not come out for some while.

Kira Yamoto · « **Reply #11 on:** August 23, 2006, 12:53:00 AM »

QUOTE(Mr Invader @ Aug 23 2006, 03:22 AM)

wrong about only 15gb of info on an hd-dvd. It's 15gb of information per layer. HD-DVDs can have multiple layers with 3 layers being the highest out in the market right now. thats 45gb of info. Single layer bul-rays are out on the market right now with 25gb. Many dual layer blu-rays are testing right now but thanks to such a high defect rate on single and double layer blu-rays, they are likely to not come out for some while.

Seems like all you're doing is trying to prove somebody wrong, in which I wasnt. Because a standard HDDVD disk is 15 gb like I said it was. A multi-layer disk isn't up for debate here. No one even mentioned a dual layer disk. The point is, they were comparing this (their single layer blu-ray) to 15gb single layer HDDVD disk and you missed that point.

It also seems like everytime Blu-Ray is mentioned, you want to jump on HDDVD camp and start claiming dual-layer over Blu-Ray's single layer. As does other people on the HDDVD camp. Doesn't seem too fair does it. And the difference in space is huge when you hear the fact that single layer vs single layer, Blu-Ray is bigger. Thats a FACT.

When you're debating in a Video-game topic, you don't use multiple-layers as a serious factor in your argument because you have to consider the possibility that the disks won't perform up to consumer standards on their console much like the PS2 with DVD9. If you notice, both consoles that utilized DVD9 tried to stay away from it as much as possible. Use only on a "when needed" basis. Consider such games, such as MGS2 substance, switching over to normal dvd for MGS3 Subsistence. Xenosaga II being DVD5 and III as well and those games were multi-dvd.

In the Xbox 360 though, dvd9 is crucial to development, so the drives were assured quality that dvd9 can be consistently ran on all consoles. And besides, standard dvd drives are built so well that we wouldn't get Sony's low quality dvd drives of the past. We're basically getting quality dvd readers used on PCs today.

incognegro · « **Reply #12 on:** August 23, 2006, 07:47:00 AM »

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When you're debating in a Video-game topic, you don't use multiple-layers as a serious factor in your argument because you have to consider the possibility that the disks won't perform up to consumer standards on their console much like the PS2 with DVD9. If you notice, both consoles that utilized DVD9 tried to stay away from it as much as possible. Use only on a "when needed" basis. Consider such games, such as MGS2 substance, switching over to normal dvd for MGS3 Subsistence. Xenosaga II being DVD5 and III as well and those games were multi-dvd.

Now that was a really stupid statement to make....Now The Ps2 had problems with dual layer dvds cause it wasn't built with those discs in mind (man the drives sucked). The Xbox on the other hand was built from the ground up to use dual layer dvds. No one was 'afraid' to use DVD9 on the xbox, They just couldn't fill the fucking the dvd. Hideo Kojima made sure he used the oppurtunity use dvd9 when he was making MGS on the xbox cause that was one of its strengths. Only a few were DVD9 cause only a few could fill them. Im just saying that your statement about both systems is way inaccurate.

KAGE360 · « **Reply #13 on:** August 23, 2006, 09:28:00 AM »

QUOTE(Kira Yamoto @ Aug 22 2006, 05:42 PM)

dude you're not even a developer so stfu. All you're doing is trying to rile up and downplay these companies that know 10x better than you do. You know exactly who youre downplaying? These guys are Insomniac games, they're a well known and respected developer. I trust they know wtf they're doing.

i really hope you get banned from here. yes i am not a developer but i do know what im talking about. there is no reason for a game like that to take up so much space, none at all, and that is a fact.

also with him taking jabs at HD-DVD raises questions. why would a dev bother commenting on the next gen format war? could be that sony plays a hand in what they do/say as they do work for sony. this could be a marketing move to try and prove a useless point because i know for a fact that the game would fit on a DVD-9 when in compressed form. also its a fact, and it has been stated by our developer member here, that compression will improve game performance and load times.

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If you notice, both consoles that utilized DVD9 tried to stay away from it as much as possible.

again, you know not of what you speak of. EVERY xbox game was pressed on DVD-9 regardless if it filled even half of the disk which i dont think any did as the largest games hovered around 3gigs.

seriously why do you insist on being such an ass? you jump on my back and in the process make yourself out to be more ignorant and idiotic then before.

keep it up buddy and we'll see who is right

Sc4rfac3 · « **Reply #14 on:** August 23, 2006, 09:33:00 AM »

I agree with kage^
bottom line
game takes up that much space and i'm still not impressed

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