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[incognegro]

Yea socom is WAY overated...any ghost recon is better. Tekken, as a big a tekken fan as I am, SC and DOA is better. In tekken 5 you can literally air juggle someone (without reprecussions) untill they die and the match is over. Which is bullshit IMO. VF is the king of all fighting games though, but im not hardcore enough to master it .

Devil May Cry is not coming to 360 ppl so please stop the madness.

Im not gonna comment on FF cause ppl must know by now that I hate the series with a passion of christ!

Forza is not as good as Gran turismo...Its BETTER! please do not make this careless mistake again. GT is just more meat with less flavor.

[Kira Yamoto]

reaper:  wow, I can't believe you posted something like that.  shame on you.

incog:  actually you can juggle people to death in SC, DOA AND VF.  It's just that Tekken's juggle system takes a lot more skill (to defend against, and for the offensive) that's all.  Ever try Kazuya's EWGF, EWGF, ff+1, ff+1, ff+1, ff+1, DEWGF?  Other than the ridiculously hard juggles, the only thing about Tekken 5 that pisses me off is that Steve is god-tier.  He's literally the best character in the game, well, all that changed when they released Dark Resurrection and Steve is nerfed to all hell.

I played Ghost Recon btw, and I like the instant action mode, but I do NOT dig the main game whatsoever.

Forza isn't nearly as good as GT4 imo.  GT4 imo is full blown racing sim with nearly 700 cars, 53 tracks, a whole bunch of races/tournaments, its mod/tuneup aspects are very indepth, it even has 1080i Forza < GT4

[DragoNs]

QUOTE(Kira Yamoto @ Aug 20 2006, 10:31 PM)

Forza isn't nearly as good as GT4 imo.  GT4 imo is full blown racing sim with nearly 700 cars, 53 tracks, a whole bunch of races/tournaments, its mod/tuneup aspects are very indepth, it even has 1080i Forza < GT4

Im going to agree with that, Forza is actually pretty terrible in comparison to GT3 or 4

And reaper, im surprized you would post those things, trying to take 360 over PS3, when your Avatar is a character from a PS exclusive game

[incognegro]

Ru serious!? GT better than forza? In what world!? certainly not earth. The physics and realism in forza's racing is way better than GT. Gt may have alot bells and whistles but the core gameplay doesn't compare im sorry, trust me I own both games. My uncles are racing nuts (they use to race alot professionally) and i get them to play GT anymore. GT is laughable now with us. Anyways to each's own.

ANd tekkens juggles are quite easy to pull off, im sorry. I learned them in no time. I am aware that DOA has juggles and im not too good in VF so ill leave that alone. I don't particularly the find the juggles in doa as cheap. Your definitely not gonna get away with much trying to juggle me in DOA, thats for sure. I got this friend that is so good on the juggles in tekken , he lives on youtube(Im no slouch either) but as a result each match always boils down who starts juggling first. REAL DEEP

Made me lose interest in the game real fast.

[Sc4rfac3]

Sorry i gotta agree with incog forza is better than gt
i was so into gt when it first came out but now
i'm a forza fan and f2 is coming out soon.
tekken was good until 4 then i totally left the series
soul cali 3 is great that was the last ps2 game i bought
vf is most likely the best fighting series but i suck at it

[Kira Yamoto]

QUOTE(incognegro @ Aug 21 2006, 03:41 PM)

Ru serious!? GT better than forza? In what world!? certainly not earth. The physics and realism in forza's racing is way better than GT. Gt may have alot bells and whistles but the core gameplay doesn't compare im sorry, trust me I own both games. My uncles are racing nuts (they use to race alot professionally) and i get them to play GT anymore. GT is laughable now with us. Anyways to each's own.

ANd tekkens juggles are quite easy to pull off, im sorry. I learned them in no time. I am aware that DOA has juggles and im not too good in VF so ill leave that alone. I don't particularly the find the juggles in doa as cheap. Your definitely not gonna get away with much trying to juggle me in DOA, thats for sure. I got this friend that is so good on the juggles in tekken , he lives on youtube(Im no slouch either) but as a result each match always boils down who starts juggling first. REAL DEEP

Made me lose interest in the game real fast.

Yes, I'm serious.  And about Tekken, watch some high level matches and lets see how easily they fall into a juggle.  Not only you have to deal with the juggles but you have to deal with the enviornment and the mind-games too.  High-level gameplay is completely different, and thats a FACT.  Any scrub can do a juggle, but playing at and against an expert level player isnt.  Check out www.tekkencentral.com and www.tekkenzaibatsu.com and lastly www.combovideos.com for some high lvl matches.

[Mr Invader]

The list of games....

I wonder how long it will take for all of them to come out.

The list for the 360 games was big before it came out and nearly a year later alot of games still aren't out.

Anyone have feedback on some non-launch titles for the PS3? I'm curious and too lazy to research

[Kira Yamoto]

Hmm.  Untold Legends on PSP was launch, so maybe the PS3 version might be too? Anyways I saw a trailer of the gameplay and it looks awesome.

http://www.gametrail...hp?fs=1&id=2733

and check out Virtua Fighter 5

http://www.gametrail...hp?fs=1&id=2532

[incognegro]

QUOTE(Kira Yamoto @ Aug 21 2006, 07:13 PM)

Yes, I'm serious.  And about Tekken, watch some high level matches and lets see how easily they fall into a juggle.  Not only you have to deal with the juggles but you have to deal with the enviornment and the mind-games too.  High-level gameplay is completely different, and thats a FACT.  Any scrub can do a juggle, but playing at and against an expert level player isnt.  Check out www.tekkencentral.com and www.tekkenzaibatsu.com and lastly www.combovideos.com for some high lvl matches.

Yes im aware of this but my problem is not how easy it is to juggle, is that because its so easy there should reprecussions for doing them. Now they are not as easy to do in other fighting games so the devastation of getting caught in them is justified. Since they are so easy in tekken there should be a gameplay mechanic that discourages you from using it as a crouch to win every match. I mean just simply finding ways to avoid getting into a juggle is not enough (which essentially boils down to who execute the juggle first and properly which is not that hard). There should be something in there that can stop a juggle in mid-air or something that acts a "spanking" move...meaning : DONT DO THAT AGAIN OR ELSE!

No matter how u put it, its cheap and thats the reason why I play Tekken 3 so much more. Back when it was good . Now if only Sony actually do something right for a change with the psp and make me be able to play Tekken 3 on it through emulation ill be happy.

As for Forza vs. GT , your case is sad if you think GT is better (neither GT4 nor 3...maybe GT2). Your not gonna listen to reason if thats the case. So im gonna leave that alone.

[Kira Yamoto]

I loved the feature on the DC, I owned that and Unreal Tournament.  I did and still do want that feature on all consoles, as an option to play keyboard/mouse instead of only JUST mouse on SELECT games, and about NO support at all on the Xbox, instead having to rely on 3rd party.  I don't think that my point could have been any clearer on that.  You're just trolling right now and I should be ignoring you.  You're lucky to even get a response from me.

[DragoNs]

QUOTE(nickthegreat @ Aug 23 2006, 07:55 AM)

How can it be what youve always wanted when youve had it on the DC, and it is also available on the PS? You are just trying to find another weak excuse as to why the PS3 is somehow hugely superior.

PS2 has 1 game that was just released that supports mouse and keyboard, Final Fantasy VII: Dirge of Cerberus

QUOTE(nickthegreat @ Aug 23 2006, 07:55 AM)

Put it this way - Im much more accurate on COD2 with a pad than I ever was on Quake with a mouse and keyboard, and I used to play TF & CS religiously back then.

Rofl, if your more accurate with a controller then mouse and keyboard, thats pretty sad, you must be pretty bad at FPS'. I play counter-strike on the PC, and when i switch to use a controller on 360 to play COD or PDZ, its pretty much... ridiculous and rather boring and then I just switch back to PC after relizing how boring and crappy a controller + FPS is.

[incognegro]

Unreal for the ps2 gives u the option of mouse and keyboard...and bring your keyboard and mouse and ill kill u with my controller....im jus sayin'

[nickthegreat]

QUOTE(DragoNs @ Aug 23 2006, 04:12 PM)

PS2 has 1 game that was just released that supports mouse and keyboard, Final Fantasy VII: Dirge of Cerberus

bullshit:
halflife and unreal both supported it

and according to this website
http://www.ps2-scene...ead.php?t=26649
These games were also supported by their product:
SOCOM II: US Navy SEALs
Medal of Honor: Frontline
Time Splitters 2
James Bond 007: Nightfire
Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six 3
Ghost Recon: Jungle Storm
Return to Castle Wolfenstein
REZ

QUOTE(DragoNs @ Aug 23 2006, 04:12 PM)

Rofl, if your more accurate with a controller then mouse and keyboard, thats pretty sad, you must be pretty bad at FPS'. I play counter-strike on the PC, and when i switch to use a controller on 360 to play COD or PDZ, its pretty much... ridiculous and rather boring and then I just switch back to PC after relizing how boring and crappy a controller + FPS is.

Nice one(!)    I didn't say I was more accurate at COD than TF or CS on the PC. I said I was more accurate on COD with a pad than Quake on the DC with a keyboard and mouse. Why? well firstly its all about what you are used to. Hence I know Im more accurate, right now, on halo 1 on the Xbox pad, than the PC version and its control system (face it, its balls). BUT - Im more accurate on the PC on CS (perfect control system) than I am on halo on the xbox.
You switching from a PC to a console and finding the control system shit is no surprise. Control pads take a long time to adjust to, but that doesn't mean you can't become shit hot with them. People that whine about pads are those that don't use them enough and play others that do.  

Secondly the mouse and keyboard implementation on quake was pretty poor, relative to say CS, which Id say is spot on. Therefore a mouse and keyboard setup on a console means bugger all until you play it. The quality of the control system is down to THE GAME and THE DEVELOPERS. Hence why:  
'IM MUCH MORE ACCURATE ON COD WITH A PAD THAN I EVER WAS ON QUAKE WITH A MOUSE AND KEYBOARD' - Understand what I was getting at now?  

You'd be surprise how quickly and accurately you can kill people on COD with a pad in anycase, once you get good with it; the only real disadvantage is turning speed and the fact that iv got a standard tv resolution. But yes, well done, if two people of the same skill played for the same amount of time on both the pc and console version, you'd be right to state what is the fucking obvious anyway.

[DragoNs]

QUOTE(nickthegreat @ Aug 23 2006, 12:47 PM)

bullshit:
halflife and unreal both supported it

and according to this website
http://www.ps2-scene...ead.php?t=26649
These games were also supported by their product:
SOCOM II: US Navy SEALs
Medal of Honor: Frontline
Time Splitters 2
James Bond 007: Nightfire
Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six 3
Ghost Recon: Jungle Storm
Return to Castle Wolfenstein
REZ

I never said other games didnt support it, was just saying that they just released a new game that supported it? i just said 1 game that support it was just released, not stating that any other game didnt support it... lol

[Kira Yamoto]

No matter how u put it, its cheap and thats the reason why I play Tekken 3 so much more.

Ahem.  Tekken 3 is even WORSE in that regard than Tekken 5 was.  The damage in those juggles far exceed those of Tekken 5, and the ease, and pay off is even higher in Tekken 3.  For example, 3x EWGF by Mishimas, Laser Scraper x2 by Jin, or even WGF > Laser Scraper > dWGF, and finally Heihachi's ridiculously easy ff+2, f+1, b+2, f+1 that does over 50%.  Mostly every character has juggles like that, and the difficulty into getting them onto an advanced opponent are just about the same as in 5..