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Heet

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Peter Moore: Welcome Gamers to Windows Vista
« Reply #30 on: January 23, 2007, 05:04:00 PM »

Its going to be just like XP.  It will be a decent OS after about 5 years of fixing it.   smile.gif


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Peter Moore: Welcome Gamers to Windows Vista
« Reply #31 on: January 23, 2007, 05:11:00 PM »

QUOTE(Heet @ Jan 23 2007, 06:11 PM) View Post

Its going to be just like XP.  It will be a decent OS after about 5 years of fixing it.   smile.gif


Agreed.  Then you'll upgrade to just find out that half your old hardware drivers won't work with vista. smile.gif
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Peter Moore: Welcome Gamers to Windows Vista
« Reply #32 on: January 23, 2007, 06:12:00 PM »

I want to know how an OS is the biggest advance for gaming ever, over a console dedicated to just that. Not to mention how Vista can be a gaming OS if it's constantly using CPU cycles to check to make sure precious DRM content isn't being stolen.
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Peter Moore: Welcome Gamers to Windows Vista
« Reply #33 on: January 23, 2007, 06:26:00 PM »

Just stick with xp it's fine, never had a crash with xp. In a year when they have all the bugs fixed in vista and everything supports it than upgrade.
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Peter Moore: Welcome Gamers to Windows Vista
« Reply #34 on: January 23, 2007, 06:30:00 PM »

So when are you guys planning on selling the 360?

I'm trying to build a newegg Cart right now...seeing if its worth it to build an ultimate vista gaming machine.

Damn the cheapest I can get is about $3200 for the gaming rig.  Oh well at least it can play games on the next-gen OS!
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Peter Moore: Welcome Gamers to Windows Vista
« Reply #35 on: January 23, 2007, 08:08:00 PM »

I've had Vista running on my pc for a few weeks now and I love it.  It's not any slower then xp and I can use every program I used on xp so far, had to update a few of them but that was expected.  I've got a 3Ghz P4 with 1gig ram and it only uses about 450MB of my ram with my ftp server, antivirus, bittorrent, and messenger running.  It jumps up to using about 550MB of ram when transcoding and streaming a video to my 360.  I can transcode and stream to my 360 while burning a dvd and listening to music and browsing the web and still have plenty of processing power and ram free.  After using this for a few weeks there's no way I'd go back to xp.  The media center interface for extenders such as the 360 is greatly improved too.
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Peter Moore: Welcome Gamers to Windows Vista
« Reply #36 on: January 23, 2007, 08:34:00 PM »

QUOTE(rob61 @ Jan 23 2007, 07:19 PM) View Post


Grab a copy of Windows XP with SP2, and leave out the "Genuine" authentication SPYWARE MS tries to force on you (when you try to update). You will have a faster system with less rights reducing DRM. It will run on any machine today.


you can disable the "Genuine" authentication? How can i do that.

 Vista is just Microsoft's way of saying that it can look like Mac OS, but its really just hype and no product, it pisses me off to hear all these great things about Vista becuase i want them to be true, but uts all just lies
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Peter Moore: Welcome Gamers to Windows Vista
« Reply #37 on: January 23, 2007, 10:05:00 PM »

i cannot wait to get gamerscore and achievements through PC games! i see a great world of possibility!  smile.gif
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Peter Moore: Welcome Gamers to Windows Vista
« Reply #38 on: January 24, 2007, 10:30:00 AM »

QUOTE(gymguy @ Jan 24 2007, 05:26 PM) View Post

Hey guys since where on the topic of OS's what is the best and easiest to learn Linux distro? I have never used anything but windows and now am running windows xp pro service pack 2. I want to set up my computer with a dual boot just dont know what other os to use. Is it hard to learn to use linux, will windows software run? I dont game on my pc. My pc specs if it matters for a Linux distro  
Epox 8rda
Amd 3000+
1 gig ram
geforce 6600 gt
120 gb harddrive


Little offtopic here but ok... If I were you I'd go with Ubuntu without any doubt. With that hardware it will work right out of the box and installation is very easy. Be sure to get a recent iso though, and prepare to reformat your hardrive for dual booting if you don't have Partition Magic or something like that to repartition without formatting. Also after you have it running, read up a little on the ubuntu forums how to enable easy installation of non-free stuff like the NVidia drivers etc.
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Peter Moore: Welcome Gamers to Windows Vista
« Reply #39 on: January 24, 2007, 10:39:00 AM »

Yea Off topic a bit bit this is a better topic than vista smile.gif thanks for the input btw .
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Peter Moore: Welcome Gamers to Windows Vista
« Reply #40 on: January 24, 2007, 12:05:00 PM »

QUOTE(brywalker @ Jan 23 2007, 09:20 PM) View Post

Going from MacOS 9 to OS X was like Windows 3.1 to Vista.

No, really, it was.


No joke man, I'm not a Mac user per se but I have used both OS10 and OS9 for short periods of time and almost all my experiences with OS9 ended with me wanting to kill myself.

OS10 on the other hand is very smooth and enjoyable to use for the most part.

XP and 2000 don't quite have to eye candy and smoothness of OS10, but they allow me to do what I need to do with my machine with little interference.  The only thing that I really wished XP had from OS10 is Expose which is extremely useful when I used it in OS10 and Linux (compiz).  Security, spyware, and viruses aren't really a problem for me, because unlike most people who use computers I am not a complete idiot.  The only problem I encounter is the inconvenience of having to download the ridiculous amounts of Windows updates.

Vista has some good things about it that could be useful such as the new start menu interface and Flip3D, but they made an obvious effort to make the UI as new and technologically advanced as they could, and the GUI looks good, and imho nothing like OS10, but I'm not sure it was smart to have the standard UI be fully DX accellerated all the time.  You see, people nowadays have these things called LAPTOPs, and it seems that getting 1/3 of your usual battery life isn't something that mobile users are looking forward to.  I wonder if the power management will support changing themes to Aero Lite when on battery.  Not to mention that for various reasons which include Aero running and user-level graphics drivers, gaming performance in Vista is pretty poor ATM.  Obviously DX10 games will make Vista a must for gamers eventually, but XP will remain gaming king for quite some more time.

Also backwards compatibility with older games will probably be shady working for some and not for others.
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Peter Moore: Welcome Gamers to Windows Vista
« Reply #41 on: January 24, 2007, 01:33:00 PM »

You know, they say Vista will be better for games, but I don't see how. For example when you make a car heavier with more crap, it doesn't go faster, but I guess it looks better. But looks != performance. Personally I don't even use Windows anymore, ditched it as a primary OS way back in the 2k days, and I can honestly say I didn't miss much. Times are changing, people are starting to realize that Winblows isn't the only OS in town. As for games, many of them will even work in Linux. Thats right, they run. And applications, they run too. Google "Cedega", "Wine HQ", "Crossover Office". If Microsoft wants people to buy their OS, they better stop making people pay through the nose just to get it. With free software on the rise, Microsoft's grasp on the OS market is beginning to loosen.

Google, "Fedora Wiki"

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Peter Moore: Welcome Gamers to Windows Vista
« Reply #42 on: January 25, 2007, 04:40:00 PM »

QUOTE(Bender_Unit_1 @ Jan 23 2007, 06:31 PM) View Post

I used Vista's Beta out of curiosity for about 10 minutes before formatting my PC to make sure it was gone.

Everything was awfully cumbersome to do, deleting a folder took at least 3 confirmations from me to make sure it was alright to do. Essentially nothing was compatible. The look is awful, and all they really did was steal from Fedora, OS-X, and Mozilla. It was complete crap. I felt like I was browsing through their old Encarta 98 software just looking at the start menu.

It hogs far too many resources and runs too many processes to ever be worthwhile for gaming. No thank you, I'll stay with XP for as long as it is feasible.


that's funny becasue I feel comppletely the opposite way. Oh and I used the leaked RTM. You people need to grow the heck up and quit bashing Microsoft. OS will always change and improve. It's your choice if you want to upgrade. Well...you will eventually so bitch away. You are just wasting your time. I'll be getting Vista because i think it's pure and simple the best OS created by Microsoft. That's just my opinion.

QUOTE(funnyperson1 @ Jan 24 2007, 02:12 PM) View Post

No joke man, I'm not a Mac user per se but I have used both OS10 and OS9 for short periods of time and almost all my experiences with OS9 ended with me wanting to kill myself.

OS10 on the other hand is very smooth and enjoyable to use for the most part.

XP and 2000 don't quite have to eye candy and smoothness of OS10, but they allow me to do what I need to do with my machine with little interference.  The only thing that I really wished XP had from OS10 is Expose which is extremely useful when I used it in OS10 and Linux (compiz).  Security, spyware, and viruses aren't really a problem for me, because unlike most people who use computers I am not a complete idiot.  The only problem I encounter is the inconvenience of having to download the ridiculous amounts of Windows updates.

Vista has some good things about it that could be useful such as the new start menu interface and Flip3D, but they made an obvious effort to make the UI as new and technologically advanced as they could, and the GUI looks good, and imho nothing like OS10, but I'm not sure it was smart to have the standard UI be fully DX accellerated all the time.  You see, people nowadays have these things called LAPTOPs, and it seems that getting 1/3 of your usual battery life isn't something that mobile users are looking forward to.  I wonder if the power management will support changing themes to Aero Lite when on battery.  Not to mention that for various reasons which include Aero running and user-level graphics drivers, gaming performance in Vista is pretty poor ATM.  Obviously DX10 games will make Vista a must for gamers eventually, but XP will remain gaming king for quite some more time.

Also backwards compatibility with older games will probably be shady working for some and not for others.


No they won't since Dx9 games will run under directx 10 so I don't see this being any problem.or performance. As far as Vista is concered on my machine is runs faster than XP. Most games I had ran fine under Vista. Most anti-virus softwares like kaspersky, bitdefender will require an update for Vista however. Vista is made and optimzed entirely for games. So that games run better and look better. Of course this will help with Directx10 based video cards and games. PC Laptops already get plenty of battery life. Graded a X2 AMD or Core 2 Duo getting up to 3 hours. Vista with aero lite can improve this.


QUOTE(rob61 @ Jan 23 2007, 07:19 PM) View Post

Vista is slower than XP because it is LOADED with DRM crap. Corporations continue to try to remove any idea of "fair use" from the consumers' minds.

I strongly suggest you keep XP on your system until you absolutely have to "upgrade" (read as in DOWNGRADE) to Vista.

It is trying to sell you the SIZZLE and NOT the really bad steak. It will run slower, require more and faster hardware, and isn't all that groundbreaking except for added DRM to make it harder for you to run programs and play your music. Vista is SLOW compared to XP.

Grab a copy of Windows XP with SP2, and leave out the "Genuine" authentication SPYWARE MS tries to force on you (when you try to update). You will have a faster system with less rights reducing DRM. It will run on any machine today.

If you upgrade to Vista, you may find several of your apps won't run correctly and will need new versions thus increasing the cost of going to Vista.

Just say NO to VISTA.


You are very ignorant. I have ran Vista for a month and I can 100% say it's faster than XP. It does not run slower but if you have the hardware it will run very smooth. Don't expect your 2-3 year old pc to run smooth with flying colors.

#2: you cannot simply leave our Genuine Authenication. This is REQUIRED if you with to update your SP2 windows. Sure you can use windows. But you won't update. The so-called Spyware genuine authentication is to make sure you have a valid copy of Windows XP. It's your fault if you don't. If you want updates you will pay for a legit copy. That's just the way it works.

#3: Most PC's now are Vista capable, especialy ones within the past year.

#4: I understand fair-use to a degree. But you are only thinking of the consumer point-of-view. People stealing music or movies are costing companies alot of money. That's not exactly fair-use to them is it?

You can say no to Vista while I will proudly be using to my delight.

Think before you post.
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