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yaazz

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« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2006, 09:33:00 AM »

I wonder why MS didn't just use RC5....

I also cant beleive ms forgot to remove all the secret rom code on the flash chip after debugging .... I would imagine someone got fired over that one!

I wonder if we can just roll over to 0x00 in memory on 360 too laugh.gif

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tomgreen99200

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« Reply #16 on: December 23, 2006, 10:52:00 AM »

Fight the "man" !  Push him Down !!   FIght, Fight, Fight !
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Trex666

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« Reply #17 on: December 23, 2006, 11:57:00 AM »

Great video, really informative and enjoyable.
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titaniumtwix

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« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2006, 02:13:00 PM »

QUOTE(sil @ Dec 23 2006, 03:11 PM) View Post

what other games were exploitable ?
he showed 4 games there
007, ma, sc, ?


he also said that there are other games that are exploitable but unpublished as so
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« Reply #19 on: December 23, 2006, 04:00:00 PM »

that video was pretty sweet, I couldnt sit at my computer desk to watch it so I loaded it up on XBMC smile.gif
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« Reply #20 on: December 23, 2006, 04:58:00 PM »

Very informative video, I watched it through the Opera web browser on my Wii.
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jimbobjim

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« Reply #21 on: December 23, 2006, 05:15:00 PM »

I loved the vid too, there are very intelligent and dedicated people out there that make all of our lives that little bit better... this guy is one of them.
Most of it was way over my head, but was interesting nonetheless
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« Reply #22 on: December 23, 2006, 06:37:00 PM »

I agree with you guys, quite a good watch. I feel smarterer than i did before i watched this here video. tongue.gif

Hopefully one day I can be this 1337.
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Chan163

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« Reply #23 on: December 23, 2006, 07:35:00 PM »

I don't see where the problem lies for M$ giving us free access for homebrew software. They ssem to consider homebrew more dangerous than piracy. We can already copy games and play them, even on XBoxLive I guess (heard nothing about bans or stuff), so how much worse could real access to the hardware be? If someone WANTS to play pirated games, he can already....
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« Reply #24 on: December 23, 2006, 07:58:00 PM »

That was good, wasnt planning on watching the whole thing but i did, that was funny when bunnie analyzed the secret rom found the old code, and the whole dumped the flash rom, put on his site, got a call from ms lawyers, took it down from his site thing biggrin.gif
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« Reply #25 on: December 23, 2006, 10:37:00 PM »

Well i was board and watched the entire video, and i must say i learnt heaps about how the xbox's securtiy system works and how they got around it.......

The most interesting thing I learnt was that the D0 point on a modchip is just a ground.......for all these years I assumed it was a data line or something........but it just grounded a pin on the flash chip to make the xbox think it didnt have one.....
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« Reply #26 on: December 23, 2006, 11:32:00 PM »

QUOTE(psxpirate1 @ Dec 23 2006, 08:21 AM) View Post

I would like to see the focus on 360 shift from dvdrom modding to getting homebrew code running on Xbox 360 once and for all.

It was interesting to note that most of the recommendations to M$ at the tail end of the presentation appear to have been followed on the X360.

One advice was to know and enguage with your 'enemy'.
X360 can play videos, etc, either via MCE or direct WMV playback - so the need for XBMC is lessened.
XBL Arcade provides lots of retro game classics - the bulk of traditional homebrew output!
And with XNA, now homebrew development is possible - albeit in a controlled environment.
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« Reply #27 on: December 24, 2006, 04:03:00 AM »

what they need to do is leak the method to trap the flash memory chips (TSOP style) of the 360's BIOS using a JTAG method..i.e JKEYs or EJTAG or JTAGER programs.
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« Reply #28 on: December 24, 2006, 04:08:00 AM »

Yeah!!! what he said  laugh.gif
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« Reply #29 on: December 24, 2006, 10:32:00 AM »

I read the Bunnie papers and this presentation makes is a lot more understandable. IMO the XB1 will go down as the most developed, hackable console in history. I don't think there will be another console that is as exploitable and has so much development in terms of homebrew for it.
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