Actually all of you are wrong. A crossbar and a post are 2 sepreate things. The crossbar is actually inside the net. If you look at a net from above you will see white pipes those are crossbars. Most ref's will detect if its a goal or not. But, some of my slap shots are fast and mostly my point of view (HEAD ON) can see them hit it. But, other times no. Sucks but thats hockey. If a crossbar is hit then it is a goal since its in the back of the goal. 90% of shots that hit the post won't go in unless there wrist shots up close. Because a slap shot is head on from the point. It will hit the post not usually hit the bottom then go in. But, its very possible, done it a few times. Very sweet sound. But, like someone said if its caught its not a goal. sry to say it, but your wrong as well. If a goalie gloves the puck past the line it is infact a goal. I learn this from being on a team of a goalie that can glove most shots but always moves his gloves backwards. When catching instead of steady. Well, thats how I know.