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[ausmods]

I personally have no problem with people smoking pot, but I wouldnt smoke it myself.

The only thing I have against (some) pot users, is that the majority of them (from my experience at high skool) is that they just do it so they look cool and so theyre gAnGsTa, and think everyone else is a pussy cause they dont smoke it. Those stupid faggots need to die.

Otherwise, it might be far less harmful than alcohol and tobacco, but I dont care... Im mainly interested in whats legal and what isnt. I want to have a future, and by going and smoking pot and (possibly) getting caught, is just stupid.

My 2 cents.

This post has been edited by ausmods: Oct 20 2007, 08:41 AM

[shanook]

QUOTE(ausmods @ Oct 20 2007, 08:40 AM)

I personally have no problem with people smoking pot, but I wouldnt smoke it myself.

The only thing I have against (some) pot users, is that the majority of them (from my experience at high skool) is that they just do it so they look cool and so theyre gAnGsTa, and think everyone else is a pussy cause they dont smoke it. Those stupid faggots need to die.

Otherwise, it might be far less harmful than alcohol and tobacco, but I dont care... Im mainly interested in whats legal and what isnt. I want to have a future, and by going and smoking pot and (possibly) getting caught, is just stupid.

My 2 cents.

actually getting caught smoking pot wont' put you on much of a penalty, definitely wont' stay on your records..i'm pretty sure everything under an ounce is simply probation. and not many people have an ounce on them. either way, this isn't about the morality of smoking and whether it's right or wrong and wht the possibilites of getting caught are. it's about why it's illegal.  other than the government money issue with it no one has presented substantial information about why pot is illegal

[gcskate27]

blah, blah, blah... why is jaywalking illegal? removing tags from mattresses? not drinking till 21? sodomy and oral sex in most states?

you say its not about the morality or whether its 'right or wrong' and then say its about why its illegal...? thats generally why things are illegal... at some point someone thought marijuana was a danger, therefore immoral and 'wrong': THATS WHY ITS ILLEGAL...

itll take a lot more than talking about it on an xbox forum to affect change so hop to it if youre that bothered...

[damam]

QUOTE(NKI Klepto)

Gonga is from the ground man, God made this for man, its not a chemical some a$$hole created in a lab to make some cash money, its natural, and therefore should be used as such.

QUOTE(shanook)

shrooms and pot both come from the ground, heroine and coke are derived from natural sources..but when they are ready to be taken they are FAR from natural, coke and heroine both are very very condensed. you can't just fine coke and heroine in its "usable drug" state just growing out of the ground like you can pot and shrooms..that's like saying chocolate is purely natural, because the cocao beans are grown naturally, don't bash the kid he has a point.

I always thought this arguement was ridiculous as well.  Should you abondon your house just because it was not naturally made?  Electricity?  Most of the foods you eat.  Your xbox is just as addictive (atleast it is for me) and fun and it is not exactly growing from mother earth in a premade form or in natural concentrations, nor is the TV I play it on.  G-d gave us a brain to create these wonderful tools such as refined sugar, wood planks, acid, hash, and xbox's and "should be used as such".

Trust me, if ganja ever does become legal, some "a$$hole", probably gore and rummy to be precise, will be making tons of cash off of it.  someone always does.  Dont believe me?  We can all grow our own tabacco right now.  We can also grow our own teas too.  So what percentage of the smokers and tea drinkers grow their own?  

QUOTE(gcskate27)

blah, blah, blah... why is jaywalking illegal? removing tags from mattresses? not drinking till 21? sodomy and oral sex in most states?

you say its not about the morality or whether its 'right or wrong' and then say its about why its illegal...? thats generally why things are illegal... at some point someone thought marijuana was a danger, therefore immoral and 'wrong': THATS WHY ITS ILLEGAL...

Thats why you need to actively campeign against these things.  I regularly write my rep's telling them things like I trust you, and I know that you wont abuse these outdated laws, but can you guarantee that no one will in the future?  Do the right thing and over turn these laws.  We should all be doing the same thing.

Ironically, earlier this year I wrote my Senetor, who happens to Sen. Craig about sex laws between consenting adults including consentual sodomy and oral sex and how they should be repealed.  I just got a standard form letter back:P

QUOTE(gcskate27)

itll take a lot more than talking about it on an xbox forum to affect change

awhh hell, you mean ive been wasting my time here all these years  

[crackfeen]

QUOTE(damam @ Oct 21 2007, 05:26 PM)

Ironically, earlier this year I wrote my Senetor, who happens to Sen. Craig about sex laws between consenting adults including consentual sodomy and oral sex and how they should be repealed.  I just got a standard form letter back:P

oh my god what did it say?! that's been bugging the hell out of me for a long long time...
i effin hate sodomy laws... although as my sex class teacher told me "who's gonna find out?"

[Reaper527]

My opinion: legalize it (coming from someone who doesn't smoke anything)

1. Keeping it illegal creates a violent blackmarket for it that results in more crime. If it was legal, this market would disappear as you would be able to get it at any gas station or convenience store.

2. Go ahead and legalize it, and tax it the same way cigarettes are taxed. rather then wasting billions of dollars, over filling the prisons, and wasting officers time on this when they could be going after murderers and rapists. end result is incoming cash flow other then a tremendous waste of tax payers money.

3. Someone already mentioned this, but its just modern day prohibition.

[damam]

The economist podcast (sorry i dont have the date), just said that Californian grown Marijuana brings in roughly 2 billion a year into the state making it the largest cash crop in california.  I gotta believe that the democrats are absolutely salivating over the tax revenue possibilities in that  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

QUOTE(crackfeen @ Oct 22 2007, 11:44 AM)

oh my god what did it say?! that's been bugging the hell out of me for a long long time...

it was just the standard form letter blah blah thank you for expressing your oppinion, blah blah stance is for "family values" blah blah blah.  I just thought it was funny given the timing.  Craigs a schmuck, I have never really liked him.

QUOTE(crackfeen @ Oct 22 2007, 11:44 AM)

i effin hate sodomy laws... although as my sex class teacher told me "who's gonna find out?"

thats simply not good enough.  no body believed that anyone would enforce New Yorks draconian gun laws, then along came rudy.  Politicians use these archaic laws when it suits them, and generally to oppress a specific group.  The technology may be such one day that they can find out.  These laws that generally have to do with privacy need to be rescinded.

[cerealkillajme]

Anyone wondering why pot is illegal should read "The Emperor Wears No Clothes". Matter of fact I just googled it and the author is hosting the text on his own site, so you can go there and read it, http://www.jackherer.com/chapters.html

Marijuana was opposed by the big industries cause it could be used for many, many other things than smoking. It can be used to make clothes, paper, food, possibly fuel, and many other things.

Few quotes:

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Hemp is the standard fiber of the world. It has great tensile strength and durability. It is used to produce more than 5,000 textile products, ranging from rope to fine laces, and the woody "hurds" remaining after the fiber has been removed contains more than seventy-seven per cent cellulose, and can be used to produce more than 25,000 produces, ranging from dynamite to Cellophane.

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Hemp being from two to three times as strong as any of the hard fibers, much less weight is required to give the same yardage. For instance, sisal binder twine of 40-lb. tensile strength runs 450 ft. to the lb. A better twine made of hemp would run 1280 ft. to the lb. Hemp is not subject to as many kinds of deterioration as are the tropical fibers, and none of them lasts as long in either fresh or salt water.

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Of the 3 million plus edible plants that grow on Earth, no other single plant source can compare with the nutritional value of hempseeds. Both the complete protein and the essential oils contained in hempseeds are in ideal ratios for human nutrition. Only soybeans contain a higher percentage of protein. However, the composition of the protein in hempseed is unique in the vegetable kingdom. Sixty-five percent of the protein content in hempseed is in the form of globulin edestin.1 (The word edestin comes from the Greek "edestos," meaning edible.)

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Even more important for building a strong immune system, hempseeds are the highest source in the plant kingdom of essential fatty acids. These essential oils, linoleic and linolenic acids, are responsible for the luster in your skin, hair, eyes, and even your thought processes. They lubricate (clear) the arteries and are vital to the immune system.

Alot of the book talks about how things were before, during, and after the illegalization of Marijuana. It was actually used ALOT in the early 1900's before it was banned in 1938 (or somewhere in the area).

[NKI Klepto]

wow. thanks for that man, i will give that a read.