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[luther349]

QUOTE(sicknasty413 @ Jun 27 2007, 12:38 AM)

Ok, so is installing modchips/drivechips illegal or not? I'm confuzzled.

well its pretty borderline there. installing a chip or flashing your drive isnt illagle for backup. but if you start selling/stealing games etc then your crossing the line. thats why xbox 1 chips are sold eyther blank or with cromwell bios. couse the bios are illagle to sell. bascily if they ever whent after you and all you had was backups you own they would have a very weak case you could easly defete but if you have stolen stuff your gonna be in big truble.

as for this guy and the others posted hear befor everyone was selling piret games and thats where they can get them and relly they deserv it. they whont go after a homebrew modder like myself with all orignal games couse they would lose.

[epsilon72]

QUOTE(Sankyou @ Jun 26 2007, 05:12 PM)

You guys have got to be kidding me.  Maybe it's time we all step back and think about morals but slamming on this guy and saying it "serves him right" when you're stealing the games yourselves is pathetic.  I know there are people here that stick to the rules and only use backups / homebrew - but the other 95% of you should leave your hypocracy to yourselves.

I concur.

[RoboChicken]

  10 people have called me today all worried. Thanks for the concern man but it was a different Fred in North County that got busted. Like you said, I have never sold games and never will (not even premods). I actually only have a few games and really don't have time to play given my schedule. Feel free to come through for an update and maybe a match of Street Fighter on the stand up or something  

My deal is truly part time and I love what I do. Many people have come to me for repair and legit reasons. I've seen a mother with three kids, an applesauced drive, and scratched discs. I get the occasional Soccer or RPG freak that paid for an import that just wants to play it. I get the usual media buffs that want to turn their console into a streaming media center. I've even had a few that just wanted to use their console for development or screenshot purposes. Aside from that, I usually don't ask.

"Till All Are Modified"

[lostboyz]

QUOTE(Dyer13 @ Jun 26 2007, 11:08 PM)

I don't know how it works as far as airports go, but as far as POLICE goes, unless they have a warrant, they CANNOT legally search your car against your will. If they do anyway after you say no, anything they find that may be illegal will be inadmissible in court, and your case will easily be dismissed.

just a quick statement since its really off topic

if a cop asks to search your vehicle, you can say no, but the fact he asked you in the first place means he is bored or suspicious. he will get a warrant, then he will search the shit out of your car and take his damn time. If you say yes and be compliant then they will let you go or get it over with. If you want to be a dick to a cop be my guest.

[Chancer]

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Do you guys think or know if they ever go after the modders costumers

Supplying garments for people who do mods is not a crime  

[The Zep Man]

Despite what the article says (thanks Xbox-Scene, for blowing up headlines again), he wasn't arrested for selling pirated games and modding consoles. He just sold pirated games and that's a big no-no. I have never heard of anyone who has been taken into custody for just modding consoles.

A less suggestive and more neutral headline for the article would have been: "Software pirate faces jail time after raid". Xbox-Scene isn't helping with giving 'modders' a bad name.

modders != pirates

[cory1492]

QUOTE(Dyer13 @ Jun 27 2007, 05:08 AM)

I don't know how it works as far as airports go, but as far as POLICE goes, unless they have a warrant, they CANNOT legally search your car against your will. If they do anyway after you say no, anything they find that may be illegal will be inadmissible in court, and your case will easily be dismissed.

It's called probable cause (wiki) where they are legally able to search you without a warrant.

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In United States criminal law, probable cause refers to the standard by which a police officer may make an arrest, conduct a personal or property search or obtain a warrant.

In most places the standard is that they reasonable grounds to suspect you have been involved in a known crime.

BTW: even if they say they smelled marijuana, it does not stand up in court. Smells are subjective, one person I know clearly thinks dirty socks smell like it... and in a closed environment like a vehicle the source of the smell can easily be misidentified. Also, under no circumstance allow them to search you on such shaky grounds without a lawyer present - you DO have rights, including the right to have counsel present even if you have not been arrested! If they decline to provide access to counsel, they are screwed when it comes time to go to court again.

[Havok]

Now people will understand why the moderators work so hard to keep this site completely legal.. (no backups of backups.. no piracy talk.. no torrents talk.. etc.etc..)

[JUANVAN]

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***Consoles are now being banned. If you are plan on modifying your 360 you are currently giving up ALL access to Live (XBL Arcade, Demos, Game Updates, System Updates, etc.) even if you only use backups offline*** *** "Warez" releases of games may pass all current stealth checks but may not be properly stealthed and WILL get you banned even with the new ixtreme firmware! (besides for being illegal) ***

Since when is that illegal? I mean its just a back-up I would want it to work and be like the org disk, or it really would not do Any Good!

[bobbyblaze]

QUOTE(lostboyz @ Jun 27 2007, 08:33 AM)

just a quick statement since its really off topic

if a cop asks to search your vehicle, you can say no, but the fact he asked you in the first place means he is bored or suspicious. he will get a warrant, then he will search the shit out of your car and take his damn time. If you say yes and be compliant then they will let you go or get it over with. If you want to be a dick to a cop be my guest.

Actually if you agree to a search then anything goes. You waive your right to the search being conducted on a legal basis.

"Warning: If a police officer asks your permission to search, you are under no obligation to consent. The only reason he's asking you is because he doesn't have enough evidence to search without your consent. If you consent to a search request you give up one of the most important constitutional rights you have—your Fourth Amendment protection against unreasonable searches and seizures."

see http://www.flexyourr...c_stop_scenario

and tell the pigs to go fly.

[Havok]

QUOTE(JUANVAN @ Jun 27 2007, 09:48 AM)

Since when is that illegal? I mean its just a back-up I would want it to work and be like the org disk, or it really would not do Any Good!

I meant the "Warez" and downloading were illegal.. not the backup part.

I probably should update my sig.. because with the new Ixtreme discs are not supposed to boot unless they are 100% compliant.. but since they have not released as much details on how it works.. I don't know if there are ways to fool it with mixing parts.  But the other half of me says... MS may check for things we havent thought of makes me want to leave warnings in.

[Chancer]

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But the other half of me says... MS may check for things we havent thought of makes me want to leave warnings in.

 I agree. In fact I would put money on it. Complacency because of a new firmware is not good. Look how many people screamed loudly prior to the bannings that no way could MS detect anything and no way would they ban.

bmonster007 stay away from here with your pro piracy talk and support for piracy... I insist
In fact forget the mute you are banned for the second time here.

[dom0012]

he got busted because he advertised on craigslist it sounds like. never advertise an illegal buisness on the internet lol.. how foolish..

[Agent ME]

QUOTE(quall @ Jun 27 2007, 04:14 AM)

As for the topic, I really hate it when x-s says "modder" instead of pirate. It is misleading. Like many have stated, he got in trouble for selling pirated games and not modifying xbox consoles.

Ditto - when I think modder, I think of a guy using Linux+XBMC on an xbox, or someone who makes maps for Unreal Tournament - kinda odd when you think of someone getting arrested for that before you realize pirate (Well, I guess there was that one kid in the news that made a counterstrike map based off his school and everyone freaked out and he was suspended for a few days...)

[The Zep Man]

QUOTE(quall @ Jun 27 2007, 01:14 PM)

As for the topic, I really hate it when x-s says "modder" instead of pirate. It is misleading. Like many have stated, he got in trouble for selling pirated games and not modifying xbox consoles.

edit: sorry The Zep Man I over looked your post. I basically said the same thing.

Hey, you are allowed to give your opinion even if my opinion agrees (and off course, even when my opinion does not agree).

QUOTE(Havok @ Jun 27 2007, 02:58 PM)

Now people will understand why the moderators work so hard to keep this site completely legal.. (no backups of backups.. no piracy talk.. no torrents talk.. etc.etc..)

Although the Scene itself doesn't (and shouldn't) support piracy, Xbox-Scene has advertisements on the front page for binary news servers. True, you can use them for legal purposes but common...

QUOTE(dom0012 @ Jun 27 2007, 08:21 PM)

he got busted because he advertised on craigslist it sounds like. never advertise an illegal buisness on the internet lol.. how foolish..

Never get into 'illegal buisness' is a better start. Off course, pirating games is one thing but then also selling them... it's just not right.