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Police raid sparks piracy debate in Sweden-- Posted by XanTium on June 4 10:41 EST
From iht.com:

When the police raided 10 locations across central Sweden last week, shutting down a popular file-sharing site called The Pirate Bay, it seemed that online piracy in this highly wired country had been dealt a massive blow.
Hollywood appeared delighted that a threat against the economic underpinnings of the movie business had been removed, even gleeful that the openly provocative founders of the site had been taken into custody.
"The operators of The Pirate Bay have publicly ridiculed copyright holders and taunted law enforcement for years, claiming immunity to copyright laws," the Motion Picture Association of America said. "The actions today taken in Sweden serve as a reminder to pirates all over the world that there are no safe harbors for Internet copyright thieves."
But as the dust begins to settle on the empty racks where The Pirate Bay's impounded servers had been stacked, the effects of the raid no longer appear so straightforward. There are signs of a backlash, underscoring a deep rift between the government and industry stance on copyright laws in the Internet era and the more liberal views held by Sweden's technology-savvy youth.
By Saturday, The Pirate Bay site was mostly online again.

Neij (main operators of The Pirate Bay) said the site, which judging by the drop in overall Internet traffic registered after the raid was responsible for close to one-third of the total Internet traffic in Sweden, should come out of the ordeal stronger than ever.
"Today, millions of additional people have heard about The Pirate Bay," he said in an interview. "We will have huge numbers of new users."

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[linflas]

Umm, I thought everyone knew it was hoax already, TPB did it for kicks during a scheduled upgrade, them crazy swedes, if you ever read any of their email responses to the DRM companies, they are a hoot and a great laugh.

[leorimolo]

what do you mean hoax. look at whole article its no fucking hoax. Im sorry for that guy he didnt publish anything illegal the users of the pirate bay did. Now where will I get my mac intel realeases

[nickman]

QUOTE(leorimolo @ Jun 4 2006, 04:45 PM)

what do you mean hoax. look at whole article its no fucking hoax. Im sorry for that guy he didnt publish anything illegal the users of the pirate bay did. Now where will I get my mac intel realeases

How about the same place as before  
PB is back online already.

[Cerium]

This is being covered since it is a contraversial issue that will change the issue of piracy.

BTW.. why would it be a hoax.. do you think they took parts of their site offline, asked the mpaa to nicely claim victory, and move thier servers to the neitherlands? Also if you took a look at the internet useage graphs sweden did in fact use a LOT less bandwith the last few days...


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[Da_Man[SWE]]

The swedish cops are such noobs, they dont know what they are doing. And the hackers did hit back on them, by crashing their homepage.

[JUANVAN]

LOL That was too funny, I was reading it like did this come from the onion news center?  

[rasstar]

QUOTE(Xbox-Scene @ Jun 4 2006, 03:48 PM)

<p><strong>Police raid sparks piracy debate in Sweden</strong>
-- Posted by XanTium on June 4 10:41 EST

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Since Sweden and those other places have such a don't care stance to piracy I wonder how a swedish artist can survive. Even software companies or mayb they don't have any.

[Masamune]

I have only one thing to say here.... it´s not the "Crazy Fucking Swedes" (users) that are the problem in this case. It´s the government that should be issued in this case.

The government here are so fucking stupid it's almost ridicolus.
I can go on forever with problems in this society, but i hate politics.

Anyway....excuse my bad language...im a "crazy fucking swede" afterall.  

Btw. Just cuz im a swede, like many others dosent mean we all are pirates.
I dont care crap for illegal stuff, i rather buy my stuff with my own cash i worked hard for.

[donsyob]

I have been following this story very closely, it's good this is up on the scene cause this is part of what hacking the xbox is all about. Hasn't anyone ever heard of civil disobedience? Think of this as technological civil disobedience. If anyone has ever modded their xbox they're supporting this same principle, subverting the capitalist hierarchy in favor of open source, free and shared values (=democracy). We have a duty to stand up to the corporate/corrupt political machine that's running society into the ground, and in a technological world, supporting file sharing and open source are powerful ways of doing it. They have governments, international copyright and a whole lot of money, while we have computers and internet connections. In the modern age, the internet has levelled the playing field, and a vote with a torrent is more powerful than a vote for a faceless political party that will respond much faster to a corporation than to a citizen. At least that's how it is in the US of A. I'd certainly vote for the pirate party if I were living in sweden.

[Oby]

Whats really interesting about this raid is the fact that TPB most likely isn't an illegal website in Sweden. In addition to that, the police pulled 400 sites (yes, more than 10 racks worth of servers) from one of Swedens largest webhost just to take down TBP, which is a site suspected of criminal activity. Many of the other sites, who had nothing to do with TPB, such as Fragbite.se are suing the Swedish police, since they took their servers without a search warrant. It may also be possible that the search warrant against TPB isn't legal.

As you americans may understand, the Nordic and also Swedish laws are sane, and protect privacy to at least an adequete extent. Therefore, the raid in TPB may be illegal, and if so, would once and for all make AntiPiratbyran (swedish anti-piracy organization) shut the hell up.

[Masamune]

Woah i totally agree with the 2 posters above me.
The reason why they failed to keep the ppl under arrest is 2 words: Not understanding.

From what ive learned, by just fast reading some of the news in some newspaper, is that the "police" thought the illegal files were kept on TPB's servers, wich was incorrect.
(As we know, these files whatever they may be are world spread)

In this case only torrent files. (And this is what some ppl here dont understand what is.)
But well, this is just some of what i read. (I try not to read much about this things)

[Devedander]

QUOTE(RiotShift @ Jun 4 2006, 05:05 PM)

While I don't condone piracy, everyone here is guilty of stealing an album of the internet, and then if your respectable, like me, buying the actual album when it is released.  THAT is not Piracy my friends.  That is being anxious or curious about an album to see if its good enough to buy.  I think the record companies should allow an album to be downloaded (in bad quality, to stop assholes who are not willing to buy it if they like it), so we can see if the album is worth buying, if it is, we buy it.  That is why i still to this day I DL albums, BUT I always buy it afterwards(if its good) if not, i'll delete the album.  Call me a pirate if you must, but if you can't see this is perfectly reasonable, then you're just as bad as the RIAA. I have a collection of more than 200 legitimate albums, in which many i dled first. And dont give me this preview the song on itunes or amazon BS, it only lets you hear 15 seconds, if you like punk or rap thats fine, but if you're like me and a huge fan of progressive rock, your songs are 8-15 mins long, 15 secs is not good enough to make an adequate descision. Music should not be a guessing game.

In all fairness you generally aren't supposed to read a whole book or magazine before buying it, you aren't supposed to eat food from the store and then decide if you want to pay for it... and in the rare cases that you can do those things (eat a grape at the store before buying a bunch, taste some cheese before buying a lb) you only get a small sample kind of like the quickie samples of music on Amazon...

[rasstar]

QUOTE(PAPERMAN @ Jun 4 2006, 05:28 PM)

may it be because piracy contributes to extreme marketing of a product,and that people who download also buyes a lot more?

they do have software companies.one of the made battlefield 2

You actually believe that? LOL

[Lamer123]

QUOTE(throwingks @ Jun 4 2006, 11:29 AM)

WTF are you on this site for???

Maybe a lot of x-sceners find this news interesting. Maybe in Sweden it isn't illegal to use the bay. Maybe Swedish visitors come to x-scene. Maybe you just like to bitch.  

Maybe, maybe not . But considering this is a site devoted to reporting all things xbox , I just don't see how this effects the xbox at all .