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[_iffy]

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Did any of these people do real world tests? Does anyone really know what is supposed to happen when a Jet full of fuel strikes a huge building?

No.
Never has a plane crashed into a building. All you can do is look at the video, apply knowledge of Physics,
and watch the video again. There have been crash tests, with video, of planes crashing into walls. You can
apply simularities, but it's just physics. You do momentum equations, vector equations. You take into account strength of materials. Shear forces, tourque, compression, etc.
But in the end, no-one reading this was there. So no-one can testify what really happened, and thats what make a good conspiricy theory. And good talks.

as far as the building not falling in freefall: bombs or no, the top of the building will stop falling on each floor.
giving that staggard look.

[throwingks]

^^^
very well worded. That was what I was trying to get across.

[bluedeath]

Is this horse dead yet?

[_iffy]

^^ no, not for another 14 years.

[gcskate27]

felt the need to bump to see if anyone with half a brain would like to watch this vid:

steve jones

or read this doc:

http://www.physics.b...nergy/htm7.html

it cannot be said that this is a conspiracy theory, its fact based upon applied science...

might have been posted before but fuck it...

[jha'dhur]

QUOTE(lordvader129 @ Feb 20 2006, 11:57 AM)

now we could argue back and forth over whether or not the impact of 100 tons of metal hitting the side of a building at 500 miles per hour would have any effect of that buildings structural integrity, but lets look at the building that didnt collapse first

assuming the structure failed across one floor the top of the tower would have fallen approximately 3 meters before hitting the floor below it, this would result in a speed of about 5.5 m/s. 125,000 tons decelerating for 5.5 m/s to 0 almsot instantly (as is the case in a solid object hitting another solid object) would result in a force of nearly 7 million tons (that would be like stacking 14 more world trade center towers on top of tower 1) the one that was hit 1/3 of the way up would have produced over 9 million tons of force, its no wonder it collapsed so fast.

WOW, you mean to tell me that a plane hitting the side of a stationary building exerts an impact force on the building.

HMM...

Let me guess the FORCE the buliding was struck with is proportional to the mass and velocity of the plane.

AND not = 0...


P.S. YES you are a MORON..

[puckSR]

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Let me guess the FORCE the buliding was struck with is proportional to the mass and velocity of the plane.

AND not = 0...

ACtually you still miss the point....
of course the velocity matters.....but the velocity only matters because it changes....
if the plane hits the building and continues to travel at the same velocity....no force on the building...
but what happens is that the plane loses velocity(i.e. decelerates)...thus causing force on the building.....
But i guess you already knew that.....

We really need to explain to you again.....when velocity changes....it becomes acceleration
So when momentum changes...it is force...not momentum any longer

Good luck with that job...Im sure if you mention any of this to a nuclear/chemical/electrical Engineer...they will laugh till they are blue in the face.....

 

[jha'dhur]

QUOTE(puckSR @ Apr 8 2006, 08:53 PM)

ACtually you still miss the point....
of course the velocity matters.....but the velocity only matters because it changes....
if the plane hits the building and continues to travel at the same velocity....no force on the building...
but what happens is that the plane loses velocity(i.e. decelerates)...thus causing force on the building.....
But i guess you already knew that.....

We really need to explain to you again.....when velocity changes....it becomes acceleration
So when momentum changes...it is force...not momentum any longer

Good luck with that job...Im sure if you mention any of this to a nuclear/chemical/electrical Engineer...they will laugh till they are blue in the face.....

 

The force is proportinal to the momentum, derived from the mass and veloctiy of the plane at the moment of impact. The F = 0 only when P = 0. (i.e. m or v =0)

Post a mathmatical expression to the contrary.

[jha'dhur]

QUOTE(slightly_damp @ Apr 8 2006, 09:32 PM)

Your like an ugly girl, trying to get attention.

Are you satisfied now, I have replied to one of your lame posts.

Are you supposed to be a dick in training or something like that.

[puckSR]

Wow...jha'dhur....
Maybe its because im on medication right now....but you seem like a prick...

He was simply telling you to keep your misconceptions and your childish antics out of a thread about a potential 9/11 conspiracy....and instead you decide to insult him?

And not even a good insult?  I mean, if your just going to randomly decide to insult people...shouldnt you at least give them the common courtesy of a good insult?

i.e.
Im glad Im not jha'dhur's barber.....
it must be hard to cut someone's hair when their head is shoved so far up their own ass...