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Statecowboy

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« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2005, 08:47:00 PM »

2 Timothy 3:15 (New International Version)

15and how from infancy you have known the holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus.

Most mainstream Christian beliefs focus on salvation by faith, not works.  The belief stems from the theory that we can never make up for the sin of man, therfor God sent his son Jesus to bare the burdon of the world.  By accepting that Jesus died for the sins of man, one has been reconciled with God the Father.  I hope this clears your question up.

Sorry for the doulbe post...
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« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2005, 09:54:00 PM »

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I hope this clears your question up.

Yes it does, thanks.
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« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2005, 01:15:00 AM »

QUOTE(lordvader129 @ Oct 30 2005, 04:09 AM)
the concept of being born into "original sin" varies from denomination to denomination, but the idea that all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of god is universal among christians
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« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2005, 12:08:00 PM »

QUOTE(xmedia2004 @ Oct 30 2005, 04:26 AM)
You wonder why I pick on you. Let me see I can kill all the native americans I want and still go to heaven, or better yet I can molest little boys as long as I show up for sunday service everything is kosher huh, stateindian.
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« Reply #19 on: October 30, 2005, 04:27:00 PM »

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All in all, civilized discourse went down the drain a long time ago guys.  That is made abundantly clear in reading xmedia's posts.  Ah well, have fun in your world of hate.
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« Reply #20 on: October 30, 2005, 06:35:00 PM »

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if one was to assume your religious views, they would most closely resemble that of catholics.

I dont worship the graven image of Mary nor do I like little boys.

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Second, I never said anything about showing up to Sunday school as part of salvation. Nowhere in the bible does it say that you muist go to church to become reconciled with God. And yes, I do believe that people who lead seemingly evil lives, and attone for their sin and have a TRUE transformation of heart and mind and put their faith in God can go to heaven. Who are you to judge and condemn someone to an eternity outside of Heaven?


Not judging only repeating what the KJV of christian bible states.

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Most mainstream Christian beliefs focus on salvation by faith, not works.

Bullshit

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What [doth it] profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?


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Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.


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Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.


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But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?


Source

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Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?


Source

I know you really think I just talk out of my ass just for the hell of it Puck sucker
and Stateindian. The qoutes above are from the book of James 2:14 - 2:18

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I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last [to be] more than the first

Revelation 2:19

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Xmedia, your absolute ignorance on the topic of religion is scary. You have made multiple, multiple jokes about Catholicism,

I have forgotten more about the bible than the both of you know of it combined.

P.S. Thanks stateindian for forcing me to look up pretty much what I had been saying the last 6 posts. You illustrate the real problem with so called christians you dont know the fucking bible.

Anymore questions class.
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« Reply #21 on: October 30, 2005, 07:17:00 PM »

QUOTE(xmedia2004 @ Oct 30 2005, 09:46 PM)
Anymore questions class.
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« Reply #22 on: November 02, 2005, 05:35:00 PM »

QUOTE(Statecowboy @ Oct 31 2005, 04:28 AM)
Sure just one...what about the new testament?  The historical documentation of the life and times of Jesus Christ?  You know, the whole reason salvation by Faith is possible?  Perhaps you left that out when you google searched faith by works.  You do not know the bible.  if you knew the bible, you would not treat others the way you do and say the hateful things you do.
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« Reply #23 on: November 02, 2005, 08:18:00 PM »

QUOTE(xmedia2004 @ Nov 2 2005, 08:46 PM)
I know stateindian nevermind the truth if you repeat that BS 5x that makes it true.
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« Reply #24 on: November 03, 2005, 11:33:00 PM »

QUOTE(puckSR @ Nov 4 2005, 01:26 AM)
Neither one of you really knows what your talking about
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« Reply #25 on: November 05, 2005, 09:52:00 AM »

QUOTE(Statecowboy @ Nov 3 2005, 04:25 AM)
Resort to the same old tactics xmedia...name calling and strecthing theories.  True colors shining through.
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« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2005, 11:17:00 AM »

QUOTE(xmedia2004 @ Nov 5 2005, 11:59 AM)
Yeah I now, since I pretty much sunk your " faith without works " boat, not much remains.
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« Reply #27 on: November 05, 2005, 02:46:00 PM »

hey xmedia, you are you seriously still bringing up the fact that i said i can tell the future?  Your an idiot.

I was remarking on my beliefs in a causal universe, not claiming divine powers. LMAO

You really are just an angry little man...but good attempt at trying to get me out of the conversation, since you know that i will challenge every bullshit claim you make about particular religions.  You also know that i will challenge you whenever you fucking lie, which you do on a regular basis...

You two(xmedia & Statecowboy) still think about religion like children.  

StateCowboy-you dont think "works" get you into heaven.  Isnt "knowing and believing in Jesus" technically an action...a work.  You think your actions get you into heaven just like xmedia.  You just dont think helping people matters, you just think you have to study more....

Xmedia-Actions alone can not possibly get you into heaven.  Even the legal system does not believe in an act as an absolute.  Intent matters too.  Your just a psuedo-catholic Xmedia.  The funny thing...you hate catholics....LOL
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« Reply #28 on: November 05, 2005, 02:52:00 PM »

QUOTE(moisty_ @ Nov 5 2005, 08:42 PM)
I quite agree, and would furthermore like to state that xmeagre sucks the unwashed cock! rolleyes.gif
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Statecowboy

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« Reply #29 on: November 05, 2005, 02:58:00 PM »

QUOTE(puckSR @ Nov 5 2005, 04:53 PM)
StateCowboy-you dont think "works" get you into heaven.  Isnt "knowing and believing in Jesus" technically an action...a work.  You think your actions get you into heaven just like xmedia.  You just dont think helping people matters, you just think you have to study more....
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