Topic: Abortion (Read 1122 times)

damam · « **Reply #60 on:** April 22, 2005, 10:40:00 AM »

QUOTE(Tony42077)

QUOTE(damam)

God would never want laws to prevent me from having one either

I don't know what branch of Christianity you are involved in, but the God that I know doesn't want any human life destroyed.

I never said he did.
All societies need a some basic behavior laws keep them cohesive, after that its all fluff and should not be regulated.

While I happen to agree and live by most (if not all) of the values the christian right expresses, I could not disagree more on how they want to implement them. Nothing will change the fact that laws will never make people good. You want people to be good, teach them good values and let them govern themselves.

Christ taught that anyone that thinks a sin, has sinned in the eyes of g-d. Whats next, little mandatory chips in our brains to regulate our thoughts? No, you must let the individual choose to be good.

tony please answer my question:
Its my assertion that a society that enforces morality through laws, is totally devoid rightousness. How can you be good, in the abscence of the choice to do wrong?

If you castrate a boy at birth, would g-d care that he never had sex out of wed lock?

Tony42077 · « **Reply #61 on:** April 22, 2005, 06:07:00 PM »

QUOTE(damam @ Apr 22 2005, 04:46 PM)

Just for the record - I do care when other people abort/murder their children. I have never known someone to get an abortion that I would consider justifiable. Since coming to the conclusion that abortion is murder (realized that while I was pregnant) I have never let a friend have an abortion with out trying to stop them. After experiencing pregnancy I dont know how anyone can deny that that is life inside of you. Even from the very beginning. Dont group me in with people that like to create an illusion of an external locus of control.

xboxbox451 · « **Reply #62 on:** April 22, 2005, 07:11:00 PM »

QUOTE(damam @ Apr 21 2005, 10:35 PM)

I always find it hilarious when a bunch of guys sit down and try to decide what I should do with my body

pug_ster · « **Reply #63 on:** April 24, 2005, 07:58:00 PM »

Sometimes I wonder why pro-life people spend so much time trying to stop Terry Schaivo from starving to death while they enjoy eating a good steak from a slaughtered cow. I don't see these pro-life people protesting in front of a meat factory. Maybe these pro-life people should join PETA while they are at it.

Tony42077 · « **Reply #64 on:** April 24, 2005, 09:40:00 PM »

amicold · « **Reply #65 on:** April 24, 2005, 10:36:00 PM »

QUOTE(mario_ps2 @ Apr 22 2005, 07:30 PM)

Tony42077 · « **Reply #66 on:** April 25, 2005, 09:42:00 PM »

QUOTE(amicold @ Apr 25 2005, 04:42 AM)

I don't see why you value human life over any other form of life.

powercntrl · « **Reply #67 on:** April 28, 2005, 09:25:00 AM »

QUOTE(xboxbox451 @ Apr 22 2005, 07:17 PM)

It's the life forming in a pregnant womans body that I care about. I care about a life that has yet to become strong, or capable of voicing thier opinion.

damam · « **Reply #68 on:** April 28, 2005, 01:43:00 PM »

QUOTE(Colonel32 @ Apr 27 2005, 06:29 PM)

Call me crazy but a 'potential for egg which potentially devolops into a human' is non human too

Of course we could take this as far as Peter Singer, Professor of Bioethics:Center for Human Values at the Univirsity of Princeton, has taken it and say that a human is not really a human until they are atleast 1 month old.

Tony42077 · « **Reply #69 on:** April 28, 2005, 02:23:00 PM »

QUOTE(powercntrl @ Apr 28 2005, 03:31 PM)

What if it's an opinion that doesn't agree with yours? What if it's someone who's destined to grow up to be gay, a liberal or worse: a spammer. Sure, the pre-human mass of cells might turn out to be a dyed-in-the-wool Republican, but why take a chance? Kill 'em all and let God sort them out.

xboxbox451 · « **Reply #70 on:** April 28, 2005, 02:56:00 PM »

QUOTE(powercntrl @ Apr 28 2005, 09:31 AM)

Or, accept the fact that this life thing you value so much comes with certain aspects you might find disagreeable.

powercntrl · « **Reply #71 on:** April 28, 2005, 10:04:00 PM »

QUOTE(Tony42077 @ Apr 28 2005, 02:29 PM)

Christians try to love everyone

powercntrl · « **Reply #72 on:** April 28, 2005, 10:25:00 PM »

QUOTE(xboxbox451 @ Apr 28 2005, 03:02 PM)

Your response towards Human life has to be the most indifferent yet, but thats typical of anyone supporting such a movement. According to your analogy on abortion, you feel, as Humans we should "accept" all problems we encounter rather than respond with a solution.

Tony42077 · « **Reply #73 on:** April 28, 2005, 11:37:00 PM »

QUOTE(powercntrl @ Apr 29 2005, 04:10 AM)

You can't love someone just for their potential good or their potential innocence. You either take them the way they are, the good and the bad, or you admit you can't accept them at all.

powercntrl · « **Reply #74 on:** April 29, 2005, 12:46:00 AM »

QUOTE(Tony42077 @ Apr 28 2005, 11:43 PM)

The links about Iraq and the murder of the gay man have nothing to do with abortion, they are only another attempt by you to sway people from the truth.

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