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The unProfessional

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« on: March 16, 2005, 09:53:00 PM »
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My movie money goes to DVDs I already know i love and my music cash goes straight to concert tickets.  At least the bands see a little more that way.  I haven't bought a CD in close to a year.
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« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2005, 05:55:00 PM »
QUOTE(tRuTh1337 @ Mar 17 2005, 01:05 AM)
Same here..I personally can't remember the last time I bought a CD  blink.gif
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« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2005, 06:41:00 PM »
QUOTE(AnThRaX @ Mar 18 2005, 01:01 AM)
last cd I bought was
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« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2005, 01:46:00 AM »
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Do you have any idea how much money is put up by record companies to record an EP,  distribute and fund a promotional tour in the USA? And what happens if nobody likes the band? They eat it. Swallow the losses. Their loan doesn't get paid back. In the first year of a single they have funded everything except maybe a music video. They have booked, promoted, distributed and recorded your band for free as well as paying you without a return.

The dirty little secret is that successful musicians make the most money off radio play depending on their points scheme.  Record companies need to profit on their investments, most of which they won't. As that profit shrinks so does the amount of acts a label will fund, leading to less variety and more concentration in distribution.



Downloading music to screw over the record company is not valid because without the record company you wouldn't have anything to download. Anything you could download would be a bad recording and of very low production quality. When musicians take distribution into their own hands it might change, until then you are bitching because you can't get something for free and hurting the industry by stealing.
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« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2005, 06:09:00 AM »
We arn't complaining about not getting it for free, we are complaining about the outrageous cost of buying a CD or DVD.

Nearly every single movie makes back all of the production cost at the cinema (Most make back alot more!) So by the time it comes out on DVD all of the costs have been covered, and usually a fair amount of proffit has been had. Why then do they charge AU$30.00+ for a DVD when the actuall cost of making that DVD is about 30c? They are selling it for nearly pure profit.

I now do not buy DVDs, considering I have already paid them to see the movie at the cinema. If they sold the DVDs for a fair amount (Say $5 or $10, which is still all profit!) I would buy many more!

The same applies for songs. Why would I pay AU$2.00 per song, when I could turn on the radio, or download it off the internet (Illegal I know, but easy). It isn't that I do not want them to make a profit, in fact I do, because I love the music they produce. I would love to obtain my music collection legaly for a fair amount. It is just that I think that AU$2.00 per song is far too much. I would happily buy all my songs if they were a resonable price.
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« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2005, 12:52:00 PM »
Actually the band pays for most of their initial marketing costs, out of their own signing bonus.  So the record companies don't risk as much in the beginning as you think.  They offer the band a million dollar signing bonus, but initial promotion costs come out of that.  All they eat is the signing bonus, which to the RPs, is chump change.  They make sure that the little guy really eats the loss.  Only once a band is popular (no longer a risk), the producer covers those costs.
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« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2005, 05:12:00 AM »
*Ignorance post*

I just download all my music because if I couldn't download it then I wouldn't buy it anyhow, so I'm not detracting from album sales what-so-ever.
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« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2005, 10:56:00 AM »
Colonel, I'm sure you're right.  But record companies do generally use the loans to lewer bands into signing, right?

I based what I said off of something Courtney Love wrote a couple of years ago where she outlined how it typically works for new bands.  She did sign a hell of a long time ago, which might explain the discrepancy.
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« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2005, 11:19:00 AM »
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Thats real nice for me to hear knowing i have to go school for like six years of my life and make an average living
Maybe you should stay in school a wee bit longer then. If you count kindergarten you only made it to the fifth grade.
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