Topic: Bush Supports Gays, And More Lies, Worse President (Read 820 times)

damam · « **Reply #90 on:** March 02, 2005, 11:29:00 AM »

QUOTE(Founding Father James Madison)

a number of citizens, whether amounting to a majority or minority of the whole, who are united and actuated by some common impulse of passion, or of interest adverse . . . to the permanent and aggregate interests of the community.

Redefining Marriage, is definitely adverse to the "permanent and aggregate interests of the community." While the Christian Right may be a faction, they are a faction in agreement with the majority of america, and this definition of marriage is not just a whim of passion, it has been this way for a real real long time.

gcskate27 · « **Reply #91 on:** March 02, 2005, 05:54:00 PM »

yes ive taken american histroy as well... now, exactly how is redefining marraige going to harm 'the community'?

Maximumbeing · « **Reply #92 on:** March 02, 2005, 06:07:00 PM »

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You are mistaken. The government serves the will of the majority of the people. The minority has no place where the majority rules. A group of individuals who encourage and take part in deviant sexual behaviour do not justify recognition within our dynamic governing body.

Interracial courting was once considered "deviant sexual behavior," as times change so must we. A great time to bring up why amendments are called "amendments." THEY CHANGE! It's brilliant that our Deist fathers would be smart enough to allow change in our government.

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Since the homosexual population has chosen not to participate in the perpetual responsibility of family life they have much more free time.

Maybe if we let them adopt children they wouldn't have so much free time to "march in parades and write letters to their congressman [while] the rest of the country is busy with reality."

bluedeath · « **Reply #93 on:** March 02, 2005, 09:37:00 PM »

QUOTE(Maximumbeing @ Mar 2 2005, 05:13 PM)

Interracial courting was once considered "deviant sexual behavior," as times change so must we. A great time to bring up why amendments are called "amendments." THEY CHANGE! It's brilliant that our Deist fathers would be smart enough to allow change in our government.

damam · « **Reply #94 on:** March 03, 2005, 09:54:00 AM »

QUOTE(gcskate27)

yes ive taken american histroy as well

could have fooled me

QUOTE(gcskate27)

now, exactly how is redefining marraige going to harm 'the community'?

I do agree that a civil union wouldnt hurt the general public. But that really doesnt matter does it. It only has to go against the general will of the public. And the definition of marriage is rather permanent. The closest thing to a gay marriage that has ever existed was a "rape" ceromony (sometimes called "conjugal contracts") they used to do in Rome. They were for set periods of time (ie not a life long contract), and the older male was usually acting as a teacher in some fashion (kind of like a master and apprentice). Not really the same thing is it. Marriage, on the other hand, has been around for several millenia as a legally binding contract. Marriage as it stands, certainly fits the definition of "permanent".

Im not saying that wont change in time. I believe that the "aggregate interests of the community" will change in time like they did with slavery. but at the moment its not going to happen nor should it happen until those conditions are met.

QUOTE(bluedeath)

So you support the homosexual stance that eight is too late?

thats a pretty small group (albeit very vocal) with-in the homosexual movement. Its not really fair to say that that is a the stance of most homosexuals.

bluedeath · « **Reply #95 on:** March 03, 2005, 09:59:00 AM »

QUOTE(damam @ Mar 3 2005, 09:00 AM)

thats a pretty small group (albeit very vocal) with-in the homosexual movement. Its not really fair to say that that is a the stance of most homosexuals.

Maximumbeing · « **Reply #96 on:** March 03, 2005, 02:21:00 PM »

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Deviant behaviour begets deviant behaviour.

If by deviant behavior you mean tolerant behavior.

I bet children of interracial couples are more like to have interracial relationships because they've been raised in a tolerant enviroment. It makes sense, correlation does not mean causation.

bluedeath · « **Reply #97 on:** March 03, 2005, 03:36:00 PM »

QUOTE(Maximumbeing @ Mar 3 2005, 01:27 PM)

If by deviant behavior you mean tolerant behavior.

gcskate27 · « **Reply #98 on:** March 03, 2005, 04:23:00 PM »

ThaCrip · « **Reply #99 on:** March 03, 2005, 05:25:00 PM »

QUOTE(gcskate27 @ Feb 22 2005, 12:53 AM)

ive yet to hear a good reason against gay marriage other than people dont like it...

ThaCrip · « **Reply #100 on:** March 03, 2005, 05:38:00 PM »

QUOTE(chalosf @ Feb 23 2005, 03:19 AM)

Yes there are couples who are screwed up and mess up there kids lifes. But I can guarantee you that a kid raised buy a gay couple has a VERY HIGH (like 99.9%) rate of having issues in life becuase they are being raised in an UN NORMAL enviroment. No matter how you put it, you can't tell me a child that grows up with a gay parents is a good idea. I'll jsut drop it becuase this is going no where.

gcskate27 · « **Reply #101 on:** March 03, 2005, 05:59:00 PM »

Maximumbeing · « **Reply #102 on:** March 03, 2005, 07:05:00 PM »

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Snap out of it. You are babbling and making no sense.

Babbling or not, I can still spell bigotry.

EverythingButAnAnswer · « **Reply #103 on:** March 03, 2005, 07:08:00 PM »

This "bigotry" is a paradox in and of itself.

Maximumbeing · « **Reply #104 on:** March 03, 2005, 07:10:00 PM »

How so?

Honest question, no flame strings attached.

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