QUOTE(melon @ Jan 14 2005, 11:30 PM)
You cant really say Isreal won under amazing odds. They were/are the most advanced country in the area. After WWII a lot of the Jews who went to Israel were educated and scientists/engineers etc. there was also a large number of trained soldiers/pilots. That is why they pretty much had an instant army of battle hardened troops. The Arab countries never stood a chance.
There were only about 130 haganah soldiers (the highly trained soldiers I assume your talking about) that fought in wwII. The rest were farmers. The arabs on the other hand were well equipped and aided by the british. Not to mention the fact that the british also stopped all traffic in and out of the area making re-inforcements impossible. Also, for the time between 1945-1948, the british were doing everything they could to keep Jews from immigrating to Israel. Really, if their independence was a sure thing like your suggesting, they would not have needed to arm every women and child as well.
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And your argument about N Ireland is flawed because the creation of Israel took land from the surrounding countries who rightly from their point of view joined together and tried to get it back. Israel rightly defended itself and the hatred has been there ever since.
The Israelis have as much right to the original land as the Americans have to the land that made up the 13 colonies (I see the situation as almost exactly the same). In my opinion, they have a stronger mandate on the land they have taken since 1948 simply because it has only been taken from countries that attempted to take it over Israel. An example is the lebanon border. It has remained unchanged since 1948. They have also never attacked Israel.
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I would also like to see a breakdown of the average wage foe each ethnic group in Israel.
That is an excellent question. I would like to see it too. Couldnt find any info on the net
But I also see a lot of flaws in the those surveys simply because they dont take into consideration the values of the cultures that those ethnic groups largely embrace. For example, many of the ethnic groups here in america that have lower wages on average tend to embrace cultures that do not value education which directly impacts wage.
An example that I could give is what if we saw a wage breakdown of average yearly wages of women in britain. How well would muslim women fare?
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You are going to have to explain to me where that passage says you will be judged on your treatment of Israel!
The next line is probably more important but it says nothing of Jews or Israel???
I read that as by feeding, clothing etc someone less off than yourself you are feeding etc Jesus.
Im really not the person to be asking about this, im not a fundamentalist christian. I only know that it is a very common to have a two meaning intepretation on this quote, one that is like yours and on top of that one like the one I suggested. I also double checked with a couple of my fundamentalist friends and they told me I was correct they do intepret it that way. If their is a Fundamentalist out their feel free to step in
But I will give it a shot -
Taken from the King James Version
32And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:Basically this is inteprated that we will be judged as nations because it says nothing of individuals.
40And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.The intepratation of brethren is Israel because the context of the passage is about nations, not individuals.
