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[Faid1]

QUOTE (xbox beat box @ Nov 16 2004, 06:25 PM)

Its nice that we (media and some of you assholes) have the freedom to sit back and talk shit about this Marine, the same freedom he is fighting for.

Can you please explain how invading another country for no reason is fighting for our freedom?

[xbox beat box]

When was the last time a true war was fought on American soil?

Civil War? I am Canadian so i am not too up to date on American history.

But if it was the civil war, than all wars after that, were we not fighting for our freedom?

[psybersoma]

fuck the Iraq war... how about the massive illegal immigration invasion from the southern border and northern border..last count is there are 4000-5000 illegals crossing into the US every 24 hours... You add it up for a year and see the results...

the problem is it's all by design.. any REAL American that was elected to be president would see this as a major problem and tend to it as needed..

America is purposely being destroyed by design... the global elite are turning America and it's northern and southern neighbors into one giant manageable plantation called the Pan-American-Union. Just like the European Union or EU for short...

The dumbed down masses don't get it....and likely never will...it's just like during the time before the fall of the Roman Empire. Keep the masses entertained and fed and they won't care about what's going on around them.... Today it's no different.. give the people 200+ channels of mindless shit on TV and keep them fed and they will follow whatever bullshit you wish to have them believe...

It's working....very nicely...

-Psybersoma

[pug_ster]

I sorta of agree with you, in certain aspects.  One thing I think most Americans are oblivious about is the war on Iraq.  There are uprising by these insurgents in Fallujah, Mosul, and other countries that we see everyday and it is going to get worse until there is some kind of reconstruction effort.  This is the only the beginning of a civil war in Iraq.

Bush Administration ignored Powell's plea to strike in Iraq and plan to win the peace.  Now we are paying for it with the increasing violence everyday.  From 20 years from now I think History will record Bush as a bungling fool of the likes of Nixon.

[brandogg]

The insurgents are people out there setting up car bombs, blowing up schools, killing innocents, beheading people, etc, etc. A huge portion of them are foreign fighters who came from other nations to fight against the Americans. You're retarded if you think we would go in, take out Saddam, and then pack up and leave. That would leave the country in total anarchy. The whole idea behind going in was regime change. Psybersoma or whatever you're calling yourself today, you have no idea what you're talking about.

[xbox beat box]

[damam]

QUOTE (xbox beat box @ Nov 17 2004, 04:00 PM)

When was the last time a true war was fought on American soil?

Japanese overtook most of the islands and a small part of the main land in Alaska - most of the lower 48 seems to forget that alaskan citizens (not military) fought against the Japanese and were held as POW's.  So WWII would be the last true war that was fought on US soil.

[pug_ster]

QUOTE (brandogg @ Nov 17 2004, 07:14 PM)

The insurgents are people out there setting up car bombs, blowing up schools, killing innocents, beheading people, etc, etc. A huge portion of them are foreign fighters who came from other nations to fight against the Americans. You're retarded if you think we would go in, take out Saddam, and then pack up and leave. That would leave the country in total anarchy. The whole idea behind going in was regime change. Psybersoma or whatever you're calling yourself today, you have no idea what you're talking about.

The problem with this Administration is how they keep the peace.  Bush has NO plan to win the peace.  Bush assumes that all the Iraqi's are all lovey-dovey and think that everybody in Iraq will accept Jesus Christ and thinks that the US is their savior.  So Bush decided to pull the troops away then they should be protecting the borders from foreign insurgents coming in from neighboring countries.  Getting rid of Saddam is easy, bringing peace to Iraq after Saddam is the hard part.

[nolem]

when your in combat and you see an ememy that looks dead, you reach out and touch him in the head a cpuple of times to make sure he stays where he is.  It may be ugly but its what you've got to do to keep him from coming up on your unit from the rear.

[pug_ster]

I don't think the troops want to do that.  Some of the Iraqi dead bodies are booby trapped when moved.  I heard one of the soldier died because he moved it.

[damam]

QUOTE (pug_ster @ Nov 17 2004, 09:35 PM)

I don't think the troops want to do that.  Some of the Iraqi dead bodies are booby trapped when moved.  I heard one of the soldier died because he moved it.

That puts the troops between a rock and real hard spot - they basically have no way of confirming except to put a bullet through their head.

[pepsik]

There are differences between living flesh and dead flesh, after a few encounters I'm sure they know the difference.

[Baner]

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There are differences between living flesh and dead flesh, after a few encounters I'm sure they know the difference.

1. Most will be covered from head to toe in some sort of clothing
2. Fresh dead flesh is hard to tell apart from live flesh.
3. I think hanging around checking to see if that guy laying on the street with an ak in his hands is dead or not, isn't what they want to do.

[The unProfessional]

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That puts the troops between a rock and real hard spot - they basically have no way of confirming except to put a bullet through their head.

That basically sums it up.

[Ronnie]

QUOTE (brandogg @ Nov 17 2004, 01:14 PM)

The insurgents are people out there setting up car bombs, blowing up schools, killing innocents, beheading people, etc, etc. A huge portion of them are foreign fighters who came from other nations to fight against the Americans. You're retarded if you think we would go in, take out Saddam, and then pack up and leave. That would leave the country in total anarchy. The whole idea behind going in was regime change. Psybersoma or whatever you're calling yourself today, you have no idea what you're talking about.

They didnt blow up any schools.I think that was an american tank that did that piece of work.

Are you a total dumbas?Why would they blow up a school?

And not all the fighters in Iraq are NON-Iraqis some of them are Iraqis who just dont want America in their country.

Youve heard of the bay of pigs?
A total invasion wasnt planned for that, all we wanted to do was take out the leader of the country and get the hell out.

I dont think we occupied Panama when we got rid of Noreaga.

Your theory is a stupid one.
If it were possible to take out Saddam and get the hell out the same day and sit back and watch democracy bloom like a flower then we would have.We need control of the country,thats why we are still there.

Please stop telling people that are retarded and stupid because you are the one who needs an education.