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thomes08

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« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2004, 02:13:00 PM »
i agree it was a cheap shot, that's all political debates are.  I do not agree that it was a big deal, however.  It wasn't a big deal when edwards said it 3 feet away from cheney, it wasn't a big deal when kerry said it.  The only time i've seen it in headlines is with the title "Lynne Cheney upset with kerry" or "Dick cheney upset with kerry".  If it was a big deal to them cheney shoudl have mentioned it in the first place, not had time to think of how to use it the next time as a political tool.

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« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2004, 02:26:00 PM »
And Bush mentioned the evil 'Liberal' word several times in Wednesday's debate didn't piss the Liberals off.  

When Kerry brought in the forbidden word 'Lesbian'.  The people in Bush's campagain are saying that this is inappropiate and everybody else says that it is okay.

http://abcnews.go.co...Story?id=169037

I mean why does Cheney's Mom and Dad are speaking up for her daughter?  Why doesn't Mary Cheney (the Lesbian herself) blast Kerry?

Also, if you can show me a link about the the way they respond negatively in the controller things in CNN.
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« Reply #17 on: October 15, 2004, 02:46:00 PM »
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i agree it was a cheap shot, that's all political debates are. I do not agree that it was a big deal,


Totally agree.  I guess ladies/mothers took a lot more offense to the Kerry statements then guys did.  And the Cheney family deserves to be upset.


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It wasn't a big deal when edwards said it 3 feet away from cheney, it wasn't a big deal when kerry said it.


Difference here was Cheney could if he wanted counter or defend his daughters name.  When Kerry spoke to Bush about the sibling of his vice president it was like picking on someone indirectly becuase they are not there to answer back.
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« Reply #18 on: October 15, 2004, 03:06:00 PM »
on second thought i don't really think it was much of a cheapshot, if i thought that then i would be thinking her being a lesbian is something bad, which i don't think.  Calling someone who is publically a lesbian, a "lesbian" is not a cheapshot, it's not even a shot.  It's like saying "i don't think elton john chose to be gay", which wouldn't have caused any harm.  Kerry was making a point that even the daughter of a extremely republican, religious family can be gay.  If it were a choice mary cheney would NOT have chosen to be gay, especially given her family situation.

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« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2004, 03:27:00 PM »
Flip-Flop

Another Liberal changes his position
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« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2004, 05:43:00 PM »
LOL @ the Flip Flop thing

I personally like flip flops alot, mainly because I hate shoes, and they let my feet breathe.

Okay so everyone is all whipped into a hissy because Kerry called someone that is a homosexual a homosexual?  I think what we have here is (yet another) a case of the media drawing peoples attention to small nonexistant issues while NEVER EVER mentioning anything important, such as how in a matter of years worldwide demand for oil is going to excede the supply creating a worldwide oil crisis (like in the 70s oh yeah they forgot that in american history).  And what are we doing to become closer as a planet?  Not a damn thing.  Since communication technology has become so advanced that I can correspond w/ almost anyone in the world (and the delay is measured in miliseconds) Why arent we getting any closer?  I believe that it is because of old ways of thinking, and that humans should strive to communicate their true feelings with one another....

look at me im way off topic and rambling...

the point is, don't let things like a homosexual being called homosexual get you into an argument w/ your fellow man.  Politics drive us apart, that obviously isn't what we need.

Peace
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« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2004, 05:53:00 PM »
QUOTE (Baner @ Oct 15 2004, 08:29 PM)
Since we're on the subject of homosexuals. Why do believe that it's a genetical "disease"? It's not like it's part of human nature to be gay. It doesn't aid humanity. All it is is a choice.

amen.

NOTE: I have nothing against homosexuals at all.  I accept them for who they are but not for what they have become.  If you want to be a fag, go ahead.  I can't stop you.  But I do think it's morraly wrong.  Only a man and a woman can make a baby.  Two men doing it is pure desire, NOT "heretitary" dry.gif

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And Bush mentioned the evil 'Liberal' word several times in Wednesday's debate didn't piss the Liberals off.

I'm suprised.  Liberals can get pissed off more than conservatives.

Just in case anyone is wondering... I am conservative.
And another thing...
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Homosexuality isnt a choice. choice implies free will, and we all know that doesnt exist....

If free will doesn't exist, then why did you come here?  Did someone force you into this forum?  Where's the logic?  Please define "free will" as you know it. uhh.gif
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« Reply #22 on: October 15, 2004, 06:30:00 PM »
QUOTE (Colonel32 @ Oct 16 2004, 02:20 AM)


are you gay? if not, how can you claim to know anything about it.

The overwhelming majority of homosexuals completely disagree with you including Ms Cheney. I understand the psychological implications of both inherent and environmental homosexual behavior but there is certainly a genetic link because there are people who always have been and always will be homosexual.

That is no a choice, bisexuality is a choice because everyone has a singular sexual identity, but actual homosexuals, which is arguably small percentage of the gay community, had about as much as a choice as we did.

http://edition.cnn.c...reut/index.html

This is very new and in my opinion the most plausible reasons for homosexuality. Then again, who will ever know but a gay person wink.gif

Not gay, never was gay, and never gonna be gay.

If you know so much about it are you gay?  Yeah, science proves everything, can't beat science dry.gif

Still, what you said made no sense to me. I STILL don't see what makes it "genetic".  It's like saying everyone who doesn't like the color green has a genetic thing that makes them think that way.
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« Reply #23 on: October 15, 2004, 07:06:00 PM »
QUOTE (blueshogun96 @ Oct 16 2004, 02:33 AM)
Not gay, never was gay, and never gonna be gay.

If you know so much about it are you gay?  Yeah, science proves everything, can't beat science dry.gif

Still, what you said made no sense to me. I STILL don't see what makes it "genetic".  It's like saying everyone who doesn't like the color green has a genetic thing that makes them think that way.

I think you should be careful before trying to flame a moderator.

This misunderstanding should be all over when we have Mary Cheney go in front of the TV camera and tell if she was offended if someone called her 'Lesiban.'  Since she is a daughter of a politican, she is good as any politican.

The fact of the matter is when Edwards talk about Cheney's gay daughter, it is okay.  But when Kerry talk about Cheney's Lesbian daughter, it was an outrage.  And yes, I heard of all kind of execuses, execueses because Cheney wants to put a spotlight to vent their so called 'anger' instead of dealing with Bush's so called 'political issues.'

No, I am not pissed off at the conservatives.  And I rather not be pissed off at bush for labeling 'Liberals' all the time, but hope that he will lose this November.  

Except for tax cuts, everything that Bush promised us 4 years ago never went to fruition.  Bush doesn't have a plan for America for the Next 4 years.  So instead, he has a campagain of hate to everybody who doesn't share with his beliefs.  The only thing Bush wants to do is to divide the country by separating Liberals and the non-liberals, saying things like 'You're either with us or against us.'
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« Reply #24 on: October 15, 2004, 07:35:00 PM »
If that's considered a flame, I'm sorry.  I didn't mean to flame anyone.
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« Reply #25 on: October 16, 2004, 10:37:00 AM »
QUOTE (Colonel32 @ Oct 16 2004, 07:11 AM)

muhaha.gif Bahh. I don't have immunity and my posts have nothing to do with this site. Feel free to call me names   beerchug.gif

But still, I didn't mean any disrespect.  By the way, I like your avatar.
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« Reply #26 on: October 16, 2004, 10:49:00 AM »
QUOTE (AkumAPRIME @ Oct 15 2004, 03:08 PM)
Homosexuality isnt a choice. choice implies free will,


i dont really get what you mean its not a choice...it definately is...we werent put here to be with our same sexes,that shit just isent right
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« Reply #27 on: October 16, 2004, 11:43:00 AM »
sounds like some of you guys went to American Eagle high school from the movie Saved!
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« Reply #28 on: October 17, 2004, 11:05:00 PM »
QUOTE (blueshogun96 @ Oct 15 2004, 04:05 PM)
Kerry once again steps even lower then he already is.  Kerry is now insulting the offspring of his opponents.  That is quite low if you ask me.  If you want to insult people, insult your enemies Kerry, not the offspring, like you have been doing thif whole dang time.  Really, that's all Kerry does is criticise. mad.gif



only way they were insulted is if they are ashamed of their daughter, maybe that is why at the republican convention the Cheney's were hugging their straight kids and did not even let her on the stage

It was a scripted outrage to draw attention away from the fact Shrub lost the 3rd debate making it a sweep for Kerry
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« Reply #29 on: October 19, 2004, 09:37:00 AM »
QUOTE (thomes08 @ Oct 16 2004, 07:46 PM)
sounds like some of you guys went to American Eagle high school from the movie Saved!

I havent watched the movie, but I will.
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