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[EverythingButAnAnswer]

QUOTE (xFusioNx @ Sep 12 2004, 03:44 AM)

Actually I keep my .40 loaded with ranger SXT rounds. If you think that's light you are mistaken as I am a pretty good shot. I only need to hit you once with one of those and you're down for the count.

I mean't you have a small penis, and use fully automatic assault weapons (or just guns in general) to compensate for you lack of man power.

[DOS4GW]

QUOTE (EverythingButAnAnswer @ Sep 12 2004, 04:50 AM)

I mean't you have a small penis, and use fully automatic assault weapons (or just guns in general) to compensate for you lack of man power.

Bees and flowers and cotton candy, right? Did it ever occur to you that some persons needs to practise with firearms to be able to do a good job in the army or as a police officer?

The result of a police officer with poor shooting skills might be that next time you're standing on the corner smoking your crack pipe he shoots you in the balls, rather then hitting you in the arm when he is disabeling you... Guess who is going to be the guy with a small penis then...

[DOS4GW]

I see. Well, I can't say I don't understand what you're meaning, personally I see the light weigth as an huge advantage, keeping the packing as low weigth as you can.

Lots of people complains about the safety trigger too.

We had a visit from an US submarine in a military port of ours. The us soldiers guarded it with spas-12s. Red it empties 12 slugs in 2.75 seconds... Norwegian army doesn't use shotguns, so I haven't tried that one :/

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QUOTE (xFusioNx @ Sep 11 2004, 07:04 PM)

I wanted to buy an assault rifle but I dont wanna deplete my savings buying one. Although I heard they are gonna come down in price after the ban is lifted. Still, how much would I use a AR-15 to justify spending almost 1000 dollars on it?

I meant to repsond to this earlier.  You can build a decent AR for a LOT less than $1000.  You'd mod you own Xbox, right?  Build your own rifle.

You can buy a stripped lower receiver (which is the actual ATF identified 'firearm'), build it into a complete lower with kit, and then purchase and install your choice of upper receiver/barrel combination for a fair amount better than you can buy it whole, especially if you shop around.

Anyone who's got the smarts to read and understand Xbox modding/tweaking can assemble an AR-15 from scratch.  LMK if you need any help!  

[xFusioNx]

No shit huh?

A friend of mine at the gun range had a built AR-15.

It was all preban parts according to him and it was full auto with a fully depressed trigger.

He claimed it was single shot before he "modified" it. I took him at his word and now I guess his word isnt worth much.

I'll have to look into the seperate parts for one. I've seen guys at the same range with Colt AR-15 that are basically copies of the M4. It had collapsible stock, 20" upper with the A2 flash, bayo lug, m203 cut out, etc. They must've been build ups or something. I know they damn well cant afford a gun like that. Now I know how they got them.

[xFusioNx]

QUOTE (DOS4GW @ Sep 12 2004, 12:14 AM)

I see. Well, I can't say I don't understand what you're meaning, personally I see the light weigth as an huge advantage, keeping the packing as low weigth as you can. Lots of people complains about the safety trigger too. We had a visit from an US submarine in a military port of ours. The us soldiers guarded it with spas-12s. Red it empties 12 slugs in 2.75 seconds... Norwegian army doesn't use shotguns, so I haven't tried that one :/

I have you gotten your hands on an M4 Super 90 yet? I havent used a Spas or seen one for that matter but the super 90 is real fun to use on cardboard cutouts.

EDIT: Nm I see that you said they dont use shotty.

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QUOTE (xFusioNx @ Sep 12 2004, 07:29 AM)

No shit huh? A friend of mine at the gun range had a built AR-15. It was all preban parts according to him and it was full auto with a fully depressed trigger. He claimed it was single shot before he "modified" it. I took him at his word and now I guess his word isnt worth much. I'll have to look into the seperate parts for one. I've seen guys at the same range with Colt AR-15 that are basically copies of the M4. It had collapsible stock, 20" upper with the A2 flash, bayo lug, m203 cut out, etc. They must've been build ups or something. I know they damn well cant afford a gun like that. Now I know how they got them.

If it was full auto it was more than just 'all pre-ban parts' - Your friend would do well not to advertise.   It was a hell of a lot of fun to shoot, though, wasn't it?

Most individuals who built a rifle illegally (using pre-ban parts in a post ban receiver) did so out of ignorance.  That's the ridiculous part about the Crime Bill.  The rifles are identical in function (full auto excluded - that's Class 3 and a totally different crime) even though certain cosmetic features make one legal and the next illegal.

How silly it was to have to try to be the law abiding citizen in complete compliance with a law that essentially regulated insignificant features while the criminals didn't a) purchase with a background check, honor the crime bill issues, and c) pay sales tax     I had to make sure the parts I was assembling didn't get me in trouble, and I took the time to do so.  

BTW, no one was EVER convicted and sentence solely on a violation of the 1994 crime bill.  Some folks had other charges trumped up due to using firearms that WERE in violation of the crime bill.  Bubba at the gun range with his post ban lower and pre-ban upper with the bayonet lug is probably safe.... (as long as he doesn't flip the lever to full auto....)

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If you are unloading Xboxes, maybe we can work up a trade.  I've collected a few pieces of 'hardware....'  PM me...

[xFusioNx]

I will.

I'm off to bed tonight. Expect one tomorrow.

[gronne]

QUOTE (gboshort @ Sep 12 2004, 02:08 AM)

Obviously an informed response.  We DO pay taxes for the 'problems it causes' (whatever 'it' is). As for how much tax I personally do or don't pay - apparently I pay enough because I haven't been locked up for 'dodging' taxes.  How much into your governement do you pay?

We pay the highest taxes in the world. My parents pay 70% in taxes. That doesn't leave much for your own, but we have a well working society, and they make a lot of money anyway. Of course we pay different amount of tax, depending on how rich you are. Should be stated that we have many tax-dodgers, mostly foreigners and capitalists.

Do you think most tax-dodgers get caught?

Unpro: I didn't refer to you as a tax-dodger, but you do have a lot of tax-dodgers, then I specifically refer to extremely rich people, and great companies. They dodge taxes in one way or the other. You've had some really big financial scandals the latest years. It's the duality of such people. Do YOU think it's worth all the problems gun causes? The tax the deaths causes is nothing compared to the deaths in itself. If you took away guns from people that don't use it for hunting, you know the death rate would go down with at least 80%. Unfortunately it's never that easy, it's your RIGHT.

[nemt]

The death rate for criminals, maybe.

Crime goes down statistically the easier it is for citizens to own guns in the area, and out of the 200,000,000 guns in the US today, only 0.015% will be used to kill someone.

Guns make their owners safer.

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QUOTE (xFusioNx @ Sep 12 2004, 07:31 AM)

I have you gotten your hands on an M4 Super 90 yet? I havent used a Spas or seen one for that matter but the super 90 is real fun to use on cardboard cutouts. EDIT: Nm I see that you said they dont use shotty.

I'm afraid not, that is another US weapon. We use AG3 wich is 7.62x51...

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QUOTE (xFusioNx @ Sep 12 2004, 04:55 PM)

Yeah that's why I said i noticed you said you guys dont use shotguns. The Super 90 is the Benelli manufactured tactical combat shotgun issued to marine units. It's pretty bad ass. That bitch cycles faster than you can readjust to aim. But I guess aiming with a shotgun isnt that big of a priority.

Hehe..

Naa, but shotguns is good for boarding boats and ransacking houses. I wouldn't go into open combat with that, no.

[MrWizdumb]

QUOTE (DOS4GW @ Sep 11 2004, 09:41 PM)

Based on that post I'd say you're either clueless or plain dumb. How can you defend a country with knives, bows and arrows? Get away from the computer and go back in to the woods where you can play with cute little bears and rabbits. Please!

why the fuck would i worry about protecting this country.  its what our expendable young men are for!!

[DOS4GW]

QUOTE (MrWizdumb @ Sep 12 2004, 06:45 PM)

why the fuck would i worry about protecting this country.  its what our expendable young men are for!!

I'll repeat my self:

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Based on that post I'd say you're either clueless or plain dumb. How can you defend a country with knives, bows and arrows? Get away from the computer and go back in to the woods where you can play with cute little bears and rabbits. Please!