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jeti

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« Reply #225 on: September 29, 2004, 12:39:00 PM »
drunkmunk: hey, i'm in baghdad. been here for 6 months. i get to go home next month along with 400 other national guard that has maxed the two year on active service law. we just got back from the mfo mission in egypt when we were called up for this mission. kinda sucked.
as for europe, yeah they were glad when we came in and saved them from hitler. he would have waxed their asses in another six months!
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« Reply #226 on: September 29, 2004, 04:24:00 PM »
QUOTE (jeti @ Sep 29 2004, 08:42 PM)
drunkmunk: hey, i'm in baghdad. been here for 6 months. i get to go home next month along with 400 other national guard that has maxed the two year on active service law. we just got back from the mfo mission in egypt when we were called up for this mission. kinda sucked.
as for europe, yeah they were glad when we came in and saved them from hitler. he would have waxed their asses in another six months!

I'm very glad for the US of A helping out in WW II, basicly I'm very found of the US.

You and your allies are doing a great job down there, it's a shame the media focus is only on the problems wich is what we see. Giving a false impression Iraq is just one huge mess, where infact the problems are isolated to parts of the sunni triangle.

We never see the images from Iraq that shows that most life is back to normal.
We never see the pictures of Iraqies protesting against Sadr..

People tend to forget what sick man Saddam was, and still is...
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« Reply #227 on: September 29, 2004, 04:25:00 PM »
QUOTE (Spency234 @ Sep 29 2004, 08:50 PM)
Wait, wasn't that Canada that saved the day?  Yeah I think so.  We may be pathetic now, but we were quite the powerhouse back then.

Heh, no it was the US and the Red army of Soviet Union.
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« Reply #228 on: September 29, 2004, 04:36:00 PM »
I'm not sure how many people in here read al jazeera.  But lately, they've had much less USA-bashing to do.  It's a well-known fact that Al Jazeera is focusing on the negative aspects of the Iraqi occupation, and I haven't seen a whole lot from the lately.  Perhaps they're running low on negative information to focus on.
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« Reply #229 on: September 29, 2004, 07:09:00 PM »
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Heh, no it was the US and the Red army of Soviet Union.


20 soviets died for every one dead german.

Russia didn't do anything.
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« Reply #230 on: September 29, 2004, 07:14:00 PM »
Are you kidding me?

Who do you think held off a massive offensive on Moscow?  You got it... the Soviets.  They had mal-trained troops and a shitty air-force.  They had brigades of female pilots flying night-time attack missions in BI-PLANES... while soviet troops held off German armored and troop divisions.  Pretty damn impressive with a poor army and a country in shambles, if you ask me.

And since when is the # of dead soldiers inversely proportional to their efforts?
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« Reply #231 on: September 29, 2004, 07:53:00 PM »
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« Reply #232 on: September 29, 2004, 08:03:00 PM »
QUOTE (The unProfessional @ Sep 29 2004, 06:39 PM)
I'm not sure how many people in here read al jazeera.  But lately, they've had much less USA-bashing to do.  It's a well-known fact that Al Jazeera is focusing on the negative aspects of the Iraqi occupation, and I haven't seen a whole lot from the lately.  Perhaps they're running low on negative information to focus on.

werent they shutdown by the new Iraqi government a few weeks/months back?


maybe there more regulated now........
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« Reply #233 on: September 29, 2004, 10:55:00 PM »
QUOTE (melon @ Sep 10 2004, 10:06 PM)
I feel strongly against the war and while I wish no harm to you, I do not like the number of civillian casualties caused by over zealous serviceman. I am not accusing you of this in any way I just thought you might be able to give a reason from the point of view of someone who is on the frontline.

Also my Iraqi sources say it is pretty lawless in Baghdad with cases of men stealing others' wives by gunpoint in the street a regular occurance. Whats it like from your point of view??

I hope you come back safe and Im sorry for the negative questions but your the perfect person to ask.

Your a complete retard and have no idea what your talking about. I was in Iraq for all of last year and yes it is a just war. We are making a huge difference and in a good way. People talk about the lawlessness there, but what about what it was like before we were their. And who is creating the lawlessness, not us, but the iraqis themselves and terrorists.  We are doing our best to keep order in a country that has never had order. With further cooperation and a willingness for peace on their part, Iraq has a chance of freedom and democracy. BTW, way more civilian casualties in the past two years have happened because of iraqis themselves or terrorists then from coalition troops. The sad thing is that average joes around the world only have news or gossip to go on for whats going on over there. When most of the time those sources couldnt be any farther from the truth.
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« Reply #234 on: September 29, 2004, 10:57:00 PM »
Al Jazeera has never been shut down.  It's an "independent" Arab news organization.  Saddam banned it in Iraq, but there's always the Internet.

My point was that they have very little to say about the US right now.  They're back to attacking the Israeli's (particularly Jews) full-time.
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« Reply #235 on: September 29, 2004, 11:05:00 PM »
QUOTE (The unProfessional @ Sep 30 2004, 07:00 AM)
Al Jazeera has never been shut down.  It's an "independent" Arab news organization.  Saddam banned it in Iraq, but there's always the Internet.

My point was that they have very little to say about the US right now.  They're back to attacking the Israeli's (particularly Jews) full-time.

http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage

I doubt it.  I think about 50% of it is talking about what is happening to Iraq.
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« Reply #236 on: September 29, 2004, 11:22:00 PM »
I dont know if you were following during past weeks.  It was almost completely peppered with anti-US rhetoric.
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« Reply #237 on: September 29, 2004, 11:44:00 PM »
sorry but al-jazeera has been shut down in iraq. i have no idea if they brodcast anywhere else?
i have never heard of men stealing others" wifes at gunpoint. that is the crazyest thing i've ever heard.
i escorted civil affairs around baghdad all day yesterday. we went to a new school, market, and medical facility. all funded by the US. in some ways the all mighty dollar does buy happiness here. i guess we might go broke tring to create a democracy here?
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« Reply #238 on: September 29, 2004, 11:51:00 PM »
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i guess we might go broke tring to create a democracy here?


No one thought it'd be cheap.  Let's just hope it's possible smile.gif  Whether we succeed or not, Jeti, you've done a great thing.  Never forget that.

Yeah, I know al Jazeera is shut down in Iraq.  But they're still the #1 broadcast source in the Arab world.
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« Reply #239 on: September 30, 2004, 10:40:00 AM »
QUOTE (The unProfessional @ Sep 30 2004, 07:25 AM)
I dont know if you were following during past weeks.  It was almost completely peppered with anti-US rhetoric.

Al-Jazeera is targeted to viewers in Arab countries.  Just like Foxnews is targeted to Bush supporters.  Of course there are commentators in Al-Jazeera who are anti-us and commentators like Bill O'Really? in Foxnews.

Al-Jazeera has been shut down in Iraq doesn't mean that people in Iraq can point their satellite Dish to Iran to watch Al-Jazeera.

The fact of the matter is that every other day you read news that people gets killed by car bombs.  I mean that the Iraqi Government really did (or if they can do) something about it.

http://www.cbsnews.c...ain646438.shtml

The president (still) paints a rosy picture in Iraq and promised that elections will take place in January.  Yet, you don't hear anything about any candidates showing up in public (except Alawi) or any preparations for this upcoming elections.  Maybe the Bush administration can pull a rabbit out from a hat or something or they are lying.
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