Topic: Bill O'reilly & Michael Moore Interview (Read 225 times)

OrkanMan · « **on:** July 28, 2004, 07:56:00 PM »

Two Thoughts.....

1.) How can you not agree with the point Bill O'Reilly said about the Iraq War? President Bush acted upon information he was getting from U.S., British, and Russian intelligence, therefore he didn't lie to anyone because he thought he was doing the right thing. I don't think there's a way you can argue against that.

2.) Michael Moore didn't seem as obnoxious as he appears to be. I think he's created a bad image for himself.

MHolodak · « **Reply #1 on:** July 28, 2004, 09:20:00 PM »

They are the highest form of government in America... They are the US intellegence and they have all the ties need to communicate with the FBI and the CIA over certain evidence of WMDs. They should have gone over this evidence over and over again before they made the decision that military use, and putting our soldiers in harm. The intel was wrong on Iraq. Wether we were lied to or wether it was a intel problem... You can't say and neither can Bill O'Reilly, because you or Bill have nothing to do with the US government. There isn't a way I can agrue against that? You bet your ass I can, and just did... Take a look at Richard Clarke or Wesley Clark who were insiders with the Bush Administration and seperated themselves from them... Why?

But say that O'Reilly's bullshit is correct and the US, British, and Russain intellegence showed that Iraq had WMDs... That is extremely scary that the 3 major countries of the world all had bad intel, more than anyone could imagine. But say that Bush did lie about the WMDs... And we know that none were found... Why isn't Bush doing anything about North Korea... The country with the leader who came out and said, Look at me! I have Weapons of Mass Destruction! And we do nothing but want to sit down and talk it over... WHAT THE FUCK? You have Iraq that was ify as to wether or not they had WMDs that was being debated... Then you have North Korea who aknowledges that they have them and they will threaten to use them if we mess with them. What's going on here?

Mick Garvey · « **Reply #2 on:** July 29, 2004, 12:34:00 AM »

The attachment is a piece written by Dave Kopel calling into question approximately 58 inaccuracies in Fahrenheit 911(The author, Dave Kopel, is a life-long Democrat who endorsed and voted for Ralph Nader in 2000. He supports some but not all aspects of the current war on terror).

The following links are self-explanatory.

Why the Iraq War Was Legal...
UN resolutions on iraq
Saddam Hussein's Defiance of United Nations Resolution
Attorney General Advised Blair war was legal
(Age Australia: Yes, This War Is Legal)
(United Nations Security Council Resolution #678)
(United Nations Security Council Resolution #687)
(United Nations Charter Article 51)
(United Nations Charter Chapter VII)
(WFB's Latest: Should We Have Gone to War?)

On Michael Moore ...
(WSJ: There's more McCarthy than Murrow in the work of Michael Moore)
(LA Times: Public Keeping Its Cool Over Election Effect of 'Fahrenheit')
Moore Myths
(Slate: Unfairenheit 9/11. The lies of Michael Moore - Christopher Hitchens)
(Newsweek: More Distortions From Michael Moore - Michael Isikoff)
(McCaslin: Major's Mom Call Moore "Maggot That Eats The Dead")
(Sydney Morning Herald: Less is Moore)
(Ed Koch: More Would've Opposed WWII Too)
(Washington Post: Baloney, Moore or Less - Richard Cohen)
((The Hill: Clarke claims responsibility)
(NewsMax: Richard Clarke: Big Part of Moore's Movie 'a Mistake')
(NRO: John Podhoretz: Spider-man 2 is the best comic-book movie ever made)
(NRO: Democrats and the Fahrenheit 9/11 Trap)
(Boston Globe: Limbaughing to the left? - Ellen Goodman)
Moore lies about meeting, Hugging Daschle

17-pages of truth about Bowling for Columbine from former Interior Department attorney David Hardy
www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html

Richard Bushnell has put together a well-documented site that takes you through the inaccuracies in Bowling for Columbine.
Click here to watch Bill O'reilly and Micheal Moore Debate in the "No Spin Zone"

This took an hour of copying and pasteing so liberals enjoy

Hill_Dill · « **Reply #3 on:** July 29, 2004, 12:16:00 PM »

Our troops are spread way to thin to deal with North Korea right now. We would have to start the draft again to have enough troops.

MHolodak · « **Reply #4 on:** July 29, 2004, 12:41:00 PM »

Im saying Bush should do what he says and go after terrorism... North Korea threatening to use a nuke is terroristic, not Iraq. We should be there if we should be anywhere...

nemt · « **Reply #5 on:** July 29, 2004, 03:18:00 PM »

The validity and entertainment value of the interview was pure fictition.

This was, far and away, the worst big time O'Reilly interview I have ever seen. O'Reilly didn't ask any tough or unpredictable questions, nor did he argue successfully against a relatively weak (as par his usual interview prowess) Moore.

For a real analysis of Moore and his work, check out Michael Moore Is A Big Fat Stupid White Man by David T. Hardy and Jason Clarke. It's a great read, regardless of your thoughts on Moore and his work.

67thRaptorBull · « **Reply #6 on:** July 29, 2004, 03:22:00 PM »

thomes08 · « **Reply #7 on:** July 29, 2004, 03:43:00 PM »

i like how bill couln't answer a YES or NO question. Would you send your son to iraq?

If you're a father, and you can't answer that question with a YES, you should not be in the position bill is in.

thomes08

OrkanMan · « **Reply #8 on:** July 29, 2004, 04:46:00 PM »

^Liberal Democrat^

gcskate27 · « **Reply #9 on:** July 29, 2004, 05:02:00 PM »

what the hell is the point of you post orkan?

melon · « **Reply #10 on:** July 30, 2004, 03:39:00 AM »

mirx999 · « **Reply #11 on:** July 30, 2004, 11:27:00 AM »

gcskate27 · « **Reply #12 on:** July 30, 2004, 11:37:00 AM »

hey here we go, one grammatical mistake by nemt...

all of his posts can now be 'officially' ignored as he is clearly a moron who doesnt run spellcheck over his posts...

i know its old, but ive never found maddox to be wrong...

thomes08 · « **Reply #13 on:** July 31, 2004, 01:36:00 AM »

yeah no kidding... that was almost fair interview... the most fair i've seen him give. Except when the camera was off those two and he gave his retarded opinion on the situation without moore there. The end was the worst.

thomes08

P.S. Opinions on Dean aside. Was it just me or was it extremely childish when Bill said something like "it was a really smart choice the democrats didn't pick howard dean" just because dean refused to speak with him. I mean he's the biggest asshole in TV why would he want to speak with him. Bill is NEVER wrong on his show so it's pointless for dean to go on and argue with him.

Mick Garvey · « **Reply #14 on:** July 31, 2004, 11:45:00 PM »

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