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[BenJeremy]

No, you guys are simply mean-spirited asshats.

The story is here.

There's no "photoshopping" going on, which should be obvious, considering the photo's URL (not too hard to figure out, I hope).

Somehow, I think you'd be right at home as the guy smirking after making the poor girl cry. To hell with free speech and being sensitive to another human being (if they don't agree with your views).

[thomes08]

QUOTE (BenJeremy @ Sep 17 2004, 05:54 AM)

No, you guys are simply mean-spirited asshats. The story is here. There's no "photoshopping" going on, which should be obvious, considering the photo's URL (not too hard to figure out, I hope). Somehow, I think you'd be right at home as the guy smirking after making the poor girl cry. To hell with free speech and being sensitive to another human being (if they don't agree with your views).

awwwww poor bj did you get all teary-eyed when you saw this.  I agree it's dumb that his happened and it shoudln't have, but if you think about all of the people bush has made cry over the last 4, and especially 2, years this seems kinda pointless.

"Take little jimmy for example, his crack addicted parents can't take care of him but his older brother was going to make somethign of his life and bring himself and little jimmy out of the slums.  Oh no his older brother is dead, now little jimmy is whoring his 12 year old body out to creepy old men for his own addiction.  Republicans did this, see what kind of people they are like?"

at least his bush/cheney sign is intact though

you should know that sympathy stories don't make for a good argument on anything

thomes08

[pug_ster]

QUOTE (BenJeremy @ Sep 17 2004, 05:54 AM)

No, you guys are simply mean-spirited asshats. The story is here. There's no "photoshopping" going on, which should be obvious, considering the photo's URL (not too hard to figure out, I hope). Somehow, I think you'd be right at home as the guy smirking after making the poor girl cry. To hell with free speech and being sensitive to another human being (if they don't agree with your views).

Well, since you put up the link about the story, I guess I have to take back what I said about the picture.  

Talking about mean spirited, Foxnews hit a new low showing pictures like this when they have to be political about Hurricanes.

[dss311]

Looks like I have two individuals to reply to.  I will start with Heoko:

First off, remember your one vote could make the swing regarding what electoral votes your state casts in the primary election.  Although the 3 electoral votes usually do not decide the outcome, there always is that possibility someday it will.

Now in regards to popular votes for your state.  If you were to use a popular vote for Alaska, your state would in essence have a .2% vote (644k compared to 293m US population) because of Alaska's population.  This is assuming 100% of the population voted for one candidate.  As it stands right now with the Electoral vote, Alaska has a .5% vote (3 out of 538).  Thus an electoral vote is more advantageous for Alaska.  These differences are small but which odds would you take in a Vegas casino?  

Last point you forgot to address.  We send delegates to cast votes on our behalf because they know politics.  Remember the general public knows zilch about politics and how the federal system works.  Ask anybody on the street who is the current Vice President or how many branches of government exist and you will understand my point.  Do you really think a crack head lying in the street should be making such important decisions regarding the welfare of your family and friends with their vote?  I wouldn't want to entrust them in regards to my family.  An elected representative will make a much better decision for all of us.

As you stated “I dont enjoy the "Proper" essay writing skills”  I also struggle with my posts in conveying my thoughts.  I do believe however I understood your comments.  I know it is hard to communicate the pros/cons on forum like this because the written word does not always convey the intended meanings.

Hopefully I was able to reflect why the Electoral vote is not as flawed as people make it sound.  It is not perfect, but I am yet to see a better alternative.


Maximumbeing,

I am not trying to “spend my time” on you or “bash your character” as you mentioned.  I just noticed some of your posts were fictitious and outright baseless in my opinion and this is why I have replied with my comments.  As always, I enjoy discovering why people make decisions like they do.  Usually it is because they have failed to take the time to educate themselves in regards to the issues.  I believe this is true in your case.  You have made some farcical comments that do not seem to have any factual basis behind them.  I would enjoy debating/discussing any topic that interests you and maybe we will both walk away with a better understanding on the subject.  I will let this personal debate between us die because I see no need for us to hijack the thread.  If you have an interesting topic to post I may jump in with my comments.  I invite you to also reply to any of my threads if you feel you your comments are warranted.  


DSS311

[BenJeremy]

QUOTE (pug_ster @ Sep 17 2004, 01:09 AM)

Well, since you put up the link about the story, I guess I have to take back what I said about the picture.   Talking about mean spirited, Foxnews hit a new low showing pictures like this when they have to be political about Hurricanes.

Hardly "tit for tat" - in one case, we have an act of God, sweeping up Kerry supporters' expensive yachts and political signs and smashing them. I don't believe the presumed "swipe" was intentional by Fox, either... just a picture of the damage and a Kerry sign happened to sneak in; they've presented dozens of photos, that one being ONE of many.

In the other, we have a union thug, assaulting a three-year old girl to squash freedom of speech.


P.S: thomes08 - please don't bother posting until you have something intelligent to say.

[Wong Hung Lo]

QUOTE (thomes08 @ Sep 17 2004, 12:06 AM)

awwwww poor bj did you get all teary-eyed when you saw this.  I agree it's dumb that his happened and it shoudln't have, but if you think about all of the people bush has made cry over the last 4, and especially 2, years this seems kinda pointless. "Take little jimmy for example, his crack addicted parents can't take care of him but his older brother was going to make somethign of his life and bring himself and little jimmy out of the slums.  Oh no his older brother is dead, now little jimmy is whoring his 12 year old body out to creepy old men for his own addiction.  Republicans did this, see what kind of people they are like?" at least his bush/cheney sign is intact though you should know that sympathy stories don't make for a good argument on anything thomes08

I'd like to see you or any liberal try that on my grandkid and me. I'd open up a can of whoopass. Better yet I'd like to see someone try that on BenJeremy and his kid. That punk would find out real quick how much pain a former marine ( or should I say marine because once a marine always a marine) can inflict on him. I think BenJeremy wouldn't even have to set his kid down to do it. He could reach over and put them down with one hand or finger.

EDIT:

Forgot to put this smilie in my post.  

[BenJeremy]

QUOTE (Wong Hung Lo @ Sep 17 2004, 09:03 AM)

I'd like to see you or any liberal try that on my grandkid and me. I'd open up a can of whoopass. Better yet I'd like to see someone try that on BenJeremy and his kid. That punk would find out real quick how much pain a former marine ( or should I say marine because once a marine always a marine) can inflict on him. I think BenJeremy wouldn't even have to set his kid down to do it. He could reach over and put them down with one hand or finger. EDIT: Forgot to put this smilie in my post.

Well, in fairness, I don't think the thug would have gotten the sign from my 4 year old's hands without a fight from him, either (and Wong Hung Lo knows how big and strong my kids are), heh heh...

...but yes, I've had to defend my family before, and I'd do it in a heartbeat if some adult has the nerve to touch my children in anything but a respectful manner. If it's another kid, I let my kids finish the job (been there, done that, too). Thankfully, word about a bully getting his ass handed to him gets around school fast, and my older boy doesn't get hassled anymore.  


...and since Thomes08 wants to make it personal... perhaps now would be a good time to remind people that Texas' law governing sex toys (limiting number possessed) might be his real beef with Bush:

[pug_ster]

QUOTE (BenJeremy @ Sep 17 2004, 01:26 PM)

Hardly "tit for tat" - in one case, we have an act of God, sweeping up Kerry supporters' expensive yachts and political signs and smashing them. I don't believe the presumed "swipe" was intentional by Fox, either... just a picture of the damage and a Kerry sign happened to sneak in; they've presented dozens of photos, that one being ONE of many.

Now, now, you can't make claims about the picture that is not true.  For one thing is that you can't say that the owners of the yacht are Kerry supporters, unless you know they are.  Even if it is true, there is only one sign and the sign is not smashed.

Well, I think it was intentional by Fox because it was smacked middle when you go to www.foxnews.com yesterday.  Whomever put the picture in the website and think that it wasn't intentional must be dumb or lying.

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In the other, we have a union thug, assaulting a three-year old girl to squash freedom of speech.

That's fair, I can give you that.  But I don't know if the union guy is a thug.

[Maximumbeing]

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I am not trying to “spend my time” on you or “bash your character” as you mentioned. I just noticed some of your posts were fictitious and outright baseless in my opinion and this is why I have replied with my comments.

The fact is, you did spent your time, and you did attempt to bash my character.

QUOTE

I will let this personal debate between us die because I see no need for us to hijack the thread.

And you're letting it die because I exposed you for the Pussy Rush Limbaugh wanna be that you are.


I like how you ignored all your miss-statements though, no need to apologize to me, I realize you're just an idiot.

[dss311]

Like I said POST AN INTELLIGENT TOPIC for everyone to comment on, or go FUCK YOURSELF in your basement closet.   The choice is yours Maximumbeing.  Do you get my drift girlieboy?


DSS311


Edit:  To keep this thread "Bush Vs Kerry, PS Kerry Sux" on topic, I would like to say:  I agree....Kerry Sux

LOL  

[Maximumbeing]

Dss311, seems to me you're the nancy-man pussy-footing around what I'M saying, you state a fact that just isnt true, and take statements out of context, then you tell me I don't post anything of value.

You then take it a step further in implying that I sniff glue, or do any other drug of any kind.

I must applaud though, you manged to escape the fact that you are a dumbass, by making accusations and pretending like I didn't put you in place like the bitch you are.

You're a liar, and an idiot.

Good luck ever making something out of yourself.

And Helium....ZING!

Edit: Dss311, I'll start leaving footnotes for you at the bottom of my statements so you don't have problems understanding my position.

Footnote: A footnote is a note at the foot of a page to give the reader a key piece of information, or to cite a work.

Cont.:This post basically restated the fact that you're a dick.

[dss311]

Lets not hijack a thread.  Lets take up this foolish debate over here.

[BenJeremy]

QUOTE (Colonel32 @ Sep 17 2004, 07:18 PM)

The Dad in the picture is Phil Parlock, who was also "attacked" by Clinton supporters August 27, 1996. Lo and behold "attacked" again, this time by Gore supporters October 28, 2000. So now if I made a bunch of generalizations about how ignorant and brainwashed neo-cons are.... I would be an asshole wouldn't I, because its not that simple.

So the Democrats attack anybody who speaks a different opinion than them?


Seems to be a trend.


Regardless of the fact this guy likes to show Republican campaign signs at Demcoratic "events" - it doesn't give a thug (yes, that's exactly what he is) the excuse to assault a three year old girl.

It's called common sense and decency.  Trying to rationalize it only demonstrates the depths some will go to supress the opinions of others.

I don't recall the Republicans assaulting children brought by Democratic supporters to their events.

[pug_ster]

QUOTE (BenJeremy @ Sep 18 2004, 12:52 AM)

So the Democrats attack anybody who speaks a different opinion than them? Seems to be a trend. Regardless of the fact this guy likes to show Republican campaign signs at Demcoratic "events" - it doesn't give a thug (yes, that's exactly what he is) the excuse to assault a three year old girl. It's called common sense and decency.  Trying to rationalize it only demonstrates the depths some will go to supress the opinions of others. I don't recall the Republicans assaulting children brought by Democratic supporters to their events.

Yesterday an old lady went to Laura Bush's speeches in NJ and protested about his son dying in Iraq war and had to be dragged out by Secret Service.  The worst thing is that b*tch Laura didn't really care about her and just continued her speech.

I don't think you will be very popular either if you stormed into a church during a service and tell everybody 'there is no Jesus, all of you must believe in satan.'

This bonehead Parlock did just that.  And the third time, he had to make his daughter hold the sign so this idiot doesn't have to have the bush sign taken from him by Kerry-supporters.

[nemt]

The democrats seem to have natural aggressions towards the bill of rights.  Perhaps they'd be happier in another country.  Hey british guys, think you'd mind someone shredding up your magna carta?  It would really help us out a lot over here if you take one for the team.