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[dss311]

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These reports were very specific, but Bush was too busy taking one of the longest vacations in presidential history to even read them. Looking back on it, I'm sure we can all agree that it would have been wise to not ignore the threats, but OPERATION IGNORE was in full effect.

Totally dillusional image and comments.  Time to lay off the smoke......

[The unProfessional]

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These reports were very specific

Have you read them?  (seeing Fahrenheit 9/11 doesn't count)

[Maximumbeing]

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Totally dillusional image and comments. Time to lay off the smoke......

Thank you for your insightful and valid contribution to the debate?

Not like you could argue anything.

[dss311]

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Not like you could argue anything.

Sounds like a challenge Maximumbeing.  I am ready to shred any argument you want to start.  However, like most of your previous comments in this thread you have nothing to stand on.  


After digging through a few threads I have noticed you haven't even started a topic.  Why is this Maximum?  Don't you have anything to contribute?  Do you not have something "insightful and valid" to contribute?  I wanted to dissect one of your posts, but they are all useless.  Here is an example of some of your posts:

"George W. Bush is obviously the Emperor of China, and he's using some sort of phallic arm to assault John Kerry.


Just like in real life."

and

"Me hate Bush cause he aint talk write.

That man represents our country, I find it offensive that he can't even speak English."


Now at least several other posters that I disagree with put up halfway decent comments.  They can express themselves with valid arguments and facts.  Your posts are all negative and fact less.  Post a new intelligent topic to debate and I will chime in with my 2¢.

[heoko]

The weather channel is the only channel i watch that is "fair and Balanced"
Because you cant lie about the weather... Its infallible.

[dss311]

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Your vote does not count anyway so WHO CARES? People need to petition the Electoral System BEFORE we complain about who will be president... Untill that is fixed, I dont really care who wins

What do you mean by "FIX" it?  It seems very efficient the way it is structured now.  Although no system will be perfect, the electoral vote allows the whole union to voice their vote with somewhat of a balance.  It would be unfare for California, Texas, New York, & Florida to decide every election for the rest of the country if some type of popular vote was established.  Also, we send delegates to vote for the President on our behalf.  This is because the general population (myself included) do not know every issue and legal matter.  This is why we in a sense hire professionals (represenative we voted for) to cast votes on our behalf.  

Now take Colorado.  They have 9 electoral votes to cast in the election.  Some democrats want to change the way the 9 votes are distributed.  In essence they want to divide the 9 votes by a percentage of the "popular vote".  For arguments sake, lets say Kerry wins 51% and Bush 49% popular vote.  The democrats would then send 5 Votes for Kerry and 4 for Bush.  This STUPID idea leaves Colorado in essence with 1 vote (4 votes for each canidate cancel each other) casted for Kerry.  Colorado would then have a smaller say on who is elected president than every other state in the Union.


Now since you brought up the idea of "fixing" the system.  What sugestions do you have?  Remember, you need to satisfy all 50 state before you will be able to change it.  If you try to go straight popular vote I garantee every small populated state will argue against it. Why would a Idahoan want a New Yorker makeing all the decisions in voting elections.  In our "Republic" society Mob does not rule and thus this is why the electoral vote was established.  

heoko, I am interested in hearing your reply/comments.

[The unProfessional]

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Because you cant lie about the weather... Its infallible

Growing up in lake tahoe, the weather channel was hands-down the MOST fallable source of information on the boob tube.

Weather channel:
"The Winter Storm Warning should continue through the night leaving between 24" and 36" at lake level by morning with snowfall continuing through the afternoon." -> Translation... no school tomorrow

Reality:
I wake up, look outside, and there's 6" of snow and freshly plowed streets.  Translation -> School


The flipside occured just as frequently however

[heoko]

Well I live in alaska... Because of the Electoral College, My vote means NOTHING...

Lets see... out of all alaska about 20 percent of the people will vote aginst the "3 Electoral"  so called Votes... And all this 20 percent... Each person who voted...

Their Votes WILL NOT MATTER... If a state has  less people then one persons vote will BARLEY effect the out come because you and 20 of your freinds votes cannot be the deciding factor to the outcome. Who cares if California has 33,871,648 circa 2000, Each persons vote should count. We tally up the popular vote anyway so I think this wont be such a big deal as you make it.

In small states they complain because they think their votes dont count..  Well,  I live in the 3rd smallest state population wise. And people will bitch but isnt this what Democracy should be? Every person counts. We cannot generalize peoples opinions to make it seem fair that 1 state has more people so it has more power. Well each persons vote counts and we all live in the same country so it shouldent even matter. For state affairs let the state vote. For Federal affairs Let the Country vote, otherwise 1 person will not matter, and if at least a small percentage of people see this as a problem then they wont vote. This will be the solution for all the absent voters that should vote, because then, your 1 vote can change the world. Not a  Sheep herder vote that masses to your population.

Right now under the All mighty Electoral college
Half of the United States votes...
Half of the people who vote vote for Snoopy, or other fictional or Non-Official Ballot vote
And your 1 vote wont matter in the electoral college because in a Majority of the states the Elector can vote for any candidate they wish... Ignoring your popular vote.

Google it and you can see some proof... I dont enjoy the "Proper" essay writing skills. I just want change and you make it seem like a crack pot idea when we allready do it.

So why dont we just make it count? IF 75 percent of the population wants Bush for president let it be. But please let the people choose, not special "Electors". That dosent seem "Democratic" to me, It sounds like a Democratic Repuplic. Where you dont matter.

[Maximumbeing]

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Sounds like a challenge Maximumbeing. I am ready to shred any argument you want to start. However, like most of your previous comments in this thread you have nothing to stand on.

Well, I'm glad you've decided to spend your time on me, Dss311, and regardless of your inability to spot sarcasm, or satire, or even know what either of the two means, I will retort.


I've started 2 threads actually, "Who do you think is the most valuable strategist of all time?", and, "Is This Two Party System Tearing This Country Apart?", congratulations on your crappy observation though.

As for my reponses generally being antagonistic, and instigative, as well as generally inane (I used bigger words than you did, because I feel you failed to show intelligence in your post, and I decided I'd revive the forums with a little word play) I used to type big long responses that carefully picked apart my opponents arguement, much like this one, but then I realized two things:

1. People don't give a shit enough to read them.
2. Republicans can't read past a 5th grade level, so don't try.

I do like that you took

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George W. Bush is obviously the Emperor of China, and he's using some sort of phallic arm to assault John Kerry.

totally out of context, I was making an observation of a picture, and that's exactly what it looks like, not like you'd take the time to validate your arguement, or stack it with substantial reasons for thinking that I'm not a decent debater.

If you'd like to pull anymore republican-esque bashing of me or my character, go for it.

Why don't you get some swiftboaters to call me a baby killer?

I hear that one rules.

Edit: You may want to check my post in the assualt weapons thread, if you think I'm all fun and no debating.

[BenJeremy]

Kerry supporters assault this three year old and tear up her Bus/Cheney sign, making her cry.

What's next, Ter-ay-za saying "let them go naked"?

Oh, she did say that, didn't she?

How mean spirited can a person be, to attack a three year old and make them cry?

[67thRaptorBull]

QUOTE (BenJeremy @ Sep 16 2004, 09:18 PM)

Kerry supporters assault this three year old and tear up her Bus/Cheney sign, making her cry. What's next, Ter-ay-za saying "let them go naked"? Oh, she did say that, didn't she? How mean spirited can a person be, to attack a three year old and make them cry?

wow



did anyone here, bush is a homosexual with the french that does drugs, while not supporting the weapons ban and he likes to kill babies while practicing nazism

[Maximumbeing]

That kid attacked him, he had every right to defend himself.


USE THE AK KERRY!!!

[pug_ster]

QUOTE (BenJeremy @ Sep 17 2004, 03:18 AM)

Kerry supporters assault this three year old and tear up her Bus/Cheney sign, making her cry. What's next, Ter-ay-za saying "let them go naked"? Oh, she did say that, didn't she? How mean spirited can a person be, to attack a three year old and make them cry?

If I am not mistaken, she wants to wipe her ass with the bush sign.  However, her dad (below her) don't want her to do it in public so her dad is trying to take it away from her.  That is the reason that she is crying.

[BenJeremy]

So the response from three flaming liberals is to make mean-spirited jokes about a three-year old being terrorized?

Fascinating, and oddly not surprising.

[pug_ster]

QUOTE (BenJeremy @ Sep 17 2004, 04:44 AM)

So the response from three flaming liberals is to make mean-spirited jokes about a three-year old being terrorized? Fascinating, and oddly not surprising.

Well, I wasn't making a political statement about Liberals or conservatives.  

You put a picture up there of a crying girl, so I am saying what I think it happened there.