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[Hill_Dill]

thomes08, I disagree with about every part of your article.  First off, everyone knows Fox News tends to be conservative.  But CNN and NBC are hard core liberal news groups.  There is no denying that.  2nd, the democrats want to crack down so hard on environmental issues, but there dont' think of the consequences.  Just look at Clintons great idea to shut down coal power plants and replace them with natural gas power plants.  Well hello operator, you can't do that.  Coal burns cleaner than they say, and the price of natural gas skyrockets.  The democrats also want to shut down land from motorsports.  Ex Yellowstone and other lands out west.  Welfare is a great program, if used right.  No one can deny that.  But there are people who milk that program for years, and don't even attempt to get a job.  Guess who pays for those lazy people, you can me.  Homeland security's responsibilty is to prevent attacks in the US.  But it is preaty hard to prevent attacks against the US without attacking people not in the US.  If the terrorists are in the US it is too late.  Yeah Clinton had a real great policy.  He didn't take care of terrorists and Bin Laden when he had the chance.  Sudan I believe it was had bin Laden in there sites ready to take down but Clinton didn't do anything.  If the US doesn't do anything to stop terrorist WHO WILL???

[pegasys]

Regardless of how other democratic presidents were it does not change the fact that Bush royally fucked up and will continue to fuck up if re-elected.  I may not agree with all democratic polocies but Kerry is definatly better than Bush.

[67thRaptorBull]

QUOTE (Hill_Dill @ Aug 29 2004, 07:58 PM)

thomes08, I disagree with about every part of your article.  First off, everyone knows Fox News tends to be conservative.  But CNN and NBC are hard core liberal news groups.  There is no denying that.  2nd, the democrats want to crack down so hard on environmental issues, but there dont' think of the consequences.  Just look at Clintons great idea to shut down coal power plants and replace them with natural gas power plants.  Well hello operator, you can't do that.  Coal burns cleaner than they say, and the price of natural gas skyrockets.  The democrats also want to shut down land from motorsports.  Ex Yellowstone and other lands out west.  Welfare is a great program, if used right.  No one can deny that.  But there are people who milk that program for years, and don't even attempt to get a job.  Guess who pays for those lazy people, you can me.  Homeland security's responsibilty is to prevent attacks in the US.  But it is preaty hard to prevent attacks against the US without attacking people not in the US.  If the terrorists are in the US it is too late.  Yeah Clinton had a real great policy.  He didn't take care of terrorists and Bin Laden when he had the chance.  Sudan I believe it was had bin Laden in there sites ready to take down but Clinton didn't do anything.  If the US doesn't do anything to stop terrorist WHO WILL???

well fusion already beat me to it but

natural gas is 100 times better then coal

yes, coal may burn cleaner then "they" say (which "they" could be a fucking 2 yr old) but that doesnt mean it burns cleaner then natural gas

thats like saying "kerry's ideas are wrong" without adding in "bush's ideas our right" (which i definatly dont agree with, its just an example)

if you dont compare one statement to the other, it means nothing

[brandogg]

I'm not gonna reply to any of the flames, this is about the election, not each other. Now, look at the protestors in New York, it's absolutely disgusting how they're acting. Assaulting policemen and starting fires. They want us to end violence in another country, when they're starting it over here.

[brandogg]

I get my info from the news just like you do. No need for the insults.

[dss311]

QUOTE (xFusioNx @ Aug 30 2004, 05:02 AM)

people who have a grasp on reality.

Grasp on reality....give me a break.  You actually sound like a clueless 20 year old.


I'm with Brandogg on this one.  Protesting is one thing, but total civil caos is ridiculous.   Waste of tax payer dollars and police resources if you ask me.

[The unProfessional]

QUOTE (dss311 @ Aug 30 2004, 05:41 AM)

I'm with Brandogg on this one.  Protesting is one thing, but total civil caos is ridiculous.   Waste of tax payer dollars and police resources if you ask me.

Ditto

[thomes08]

yeah, i don't condone any violence they do, but they haven't done anything violent to my knowledge.  Shit happens when you're an angry mod, NYC is mostly dems at a 5:1 ratio.  Hickville Southern USA would have been a much better place, with a city that doesn't have 7 million people against you.  Anyways you're just trying to make dems look bad cause a bunch of them are pissed off an got arrested.  Like i said, why can't you just talk policy instead of smears?

thomes08

[FreewayX327]

ppl were booing the kerry sisters at the VMAs. they made it really clear how they felt. n the blonde sister looked pissed. anyone else see it.

[thomes08]

yeah that whole segment was stupid, i just watched that a second ago (the rerun) and it was just people cheering and booing, cheering and booing, competing with eachother for the loudest rant

thomes08

[The unProfessional]

It's the VMAs... don't expect much more than a room full of trend robots.

[BenJeremy]

QUOTE

Azzam also claimed that the former regime of Saddam Hussein "strictly and directly controlled" members of bin Laden's Al-Qaeda terror network in Iraq before the US invasion, as charged by members of US President George W. Bush's administration... ... According to Hudayfa Azzam, Arabs who fought in Afghanistan began going to Iraq after the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks on the United States that were orchestrated by bin Laden's Al-Qaeda network. ... When the possibility of a US-led invasion became clearer "Saddam Hussein's regime welcomed them with open arms and young Al-Qaeda members entered Iraq in large numbers, setting up an organization to confront the occupation," he said.

Hmmmm.... perhaps the liberation of Iraq did indeed help eliminate a large number of terrorists from the world, eh?

Of course, let's not believe a member of the al qaida. The only thing you should believe them on is their sincere wishes for the American people and their desire to see Kerry elected President.

[nemt]

I'd rather have terrorists seeking out death on a battlefield Iraq than seeking out death in an office building in the USA.  Even if there were never WMDs (sorry Kurds, we just don't buy that whole nerve gas bullshit), Saddam was a munificent, democratically elected leader, and Iraq was viewed by the world as a peaceful state, a real level head in the Arab Leage - the terror target practice argument justifies any military action taken there.  The enemies of the US now inflict their collateral damage on non-americans, and soldiers are much better trained and equipped to deal with the terrorist threat.

[nemt]

They're trying to rally the democrat vote, Russel Simmons said it himself.  A mere 0.4% of voters registered through MTV initiatives expressed a desire to see Bush reelected.

[BenJeremy]

QUOTE (nemt @ Aug 30 2004, 11:59 AM)

They're trying to rally the democrat vote, Russel Simmons said it himself.  A mere 0.4% of voters registered through MTV initiatives expressed a desire to see Bush reelected.

Of course, the funny thing about MTV is that the Kerry daughters were BOOED and the BOOS got LOUDER when they asked them to vote for their Dad.

Not surprisingly, later rebroadcasts added more clapping and attempted to edit out the boos altogether.

This is the mentality America is dealing with in its media - edit the truth out, when it doesn't suit your own agenda. Demonize any media that doesn't toe the line with the majority of the media (like Fox). Ignore common sense and obvious logic whenever possible.

Perhaps America really is intelligent - and is starting to wake up to this manipulation by the media for what it is.

Bush will win, of course, the only question now is if it will be a landslide - as backlash to the morons running the DNC and its propagandist friends in the media.