ummm....actually the economy is getting better...
albiet slowly, but it is getting better.
hehe, i wouldn't say "indomitable force" but ill take it as a compliment, whether you meant it that way or not.
i mean, really, im not trying to convince anyone to change their mind, just state my view of things....sorry if ive been sounding mean, been really crabby lately because something has screwed up my sleep and i cant figure out what it is. if i can get to sleep before 2 am, im lucky. and since i have to get up at 6:50 am for work, welll....so i apologize if i offended you. i do tend to get pretty arrogant. but come on, at least admit i had some good points!!!
o yeah and i did remember one time i lost a forum arguement....i got tired of the whole thing and stopped posting. there was actually someone more persistent than me!!!!
Iraq....things are actually going good. more people have electricity, water, education, from a humanitarian standpoint, things are going great. Security is definitely a problem however. Afghanistan....I can't really see where things are horrible there. We should be looking harder for Osama, i mean, if we can find Sadaam in a hole in the desert, we should be able to find Osama...but they DO have a democracy there now, so it is successful. let me state my actual viewpoint on the whole thing:
If we knew what we know now before Iraq, there was no reason to go to war. In fact, we shouldn't have. But the CIA exaggerated the info, and the Bush administration acted on that. I don't really know if Bush knew the information was flawed or not, but I assume he didn't. We were right in the middle of the Afghan war, and he knew another war would not go over very well, I mean, thats just commone sense. The war was needed on humanitarian grounds, not security reasons, and the Bush administration needs to admit this and say they were wrong. I think this will go over better with the people of the US then insisting Sadaam was a dangerous foe.
And you had better hope our economy doesn't go to "shit" because if it does, we pull the rest of the world down with us. Even in the 1920's when we did not have as much of a global economy as we do now, the entire planet felt the effects of the Great Depression. Since its on a much larger scale, it would effect everyone else a lot more.
"You have probably not won a single argument.
As a 13 yearold or a 40 year old with a 13 year old brain you have yet to learn/understand that people quickly realise that unintelligent diC8heads have no effect on world politics and usually either develop brain cells once they find thier first woman and realise they are dickhea*ds or they inject shite into thier lonely elbows and disapear."
and my, my arnt we nasty here. i have never actually lost a forum arguement, save one which i mentioned above, but ive only been in about 15 or so. and like i said, they end up dying out. I never said I won every single arguement. I only won about 2 of those. And im 17. I don't know where you got the 13 idea. And apparantly you are as stupid as you sound, even if I WAS 13, i could watch a PG-13 movie. As it is, pretty much I don't watch movies. I game. Im a gamer. A geek. Put it however you want. Beating the Quake III master at a LAN party is my idea of excitement. I'm actually a pretty boring person.
And to the people who "Im and american and not proud of it"
MOVE THEN! if you hate our country so much and think the economy is so bad and it would be so much better then anything else, the MOVE somewhere better.
you are the lowest fithly piece of slime to ever crawl the planet. okay sorry, i ddint really mean that seriously, but come on. if you are going to complain about how bad it is, the least you can do is make things "better" for yourself.
oh and before i forget, i think its the suicide car bombers that are killing civilians. not the Americans. just thought id remind you.
there is probably more that i havn't read, but im too lazy to read the rest of the posts on the other pages, and im gonna go paint my pc case now. gonna be an awesome mod job, 4 consoles + pc, thee 4 are a GCN, a NES, an N64, and an XBOX. all in a midtower case. and everything fits, which i wasnt sure i could do. and with room to spare, and i have fans that move 106 cfm, so theres plenty of air flow and little overheating issues. thought id say that since i know someone is going to mention something about heat.
wow i get off topic easy.
and i want to hand it to you, you guys are a lot better at flaming and arugeing both tehn the other forums i used to go to. this is much more interesting. so the drinks are on me.
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