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Colonel32

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« Reply #45 on: July 25, 2004, 02:02:00 PM »
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oh, and colonel32 - look it up. he didn't get treated by a doctor for the shrapnel wound. they just found out he had it. and besides that, i didn't know a scratch was enough for purple heart. if it is, then i suppose he earned it.

oh yes, and you say that kerry should have gotten the silver star, because he shot a sniper in the back and prevented him from killing other americans, and that was heroic? then in that case, every single veteran should have gotten a silver star who killed a viet cong, because they stopped the viet cong dude from killing any more americans. but silver stars dont get awarded like that.


Darklink: there are records, they have been released. The Dr. Letson also confirmed the validity of these. That "Shrapnel scratch" left some shrapnel in Kerry's thigh if you want some more proof. Most scratches don't leave metal in someone's body, put it doesn't really matter. You can get a purple heart without bleeding.

I didn't say anything about the silver star, but it wasn't for killing someone.  The silver star was for gallantry.

The bronze star was for dragging a fellow soldier back into his swift boat after taking more shrapnel "scratches" to his shoulder after a mine exploded. He saved the guy's life.

Sounds like a hero to me... hopefully we can show some respect for our soldiers and not buy this smear campaign. It's the only thing Kerry has going for him, therefore naturally people would try and discredit it. They have been trying since Nixon.
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« Reply #46 on: July 25, 2004, 02:13:00 PM »
QUOTE (Dark_Link2135 @ Jul 25 2004, 02:03 PM)
^^^^^^^^
i can prove i exist.  otherwise, how would i be typing this?

its the basis of philosophy really... you cant really prove that you exist and you cant really prove anything else... but there HAS to be something, so the fact that 'you' exist is just accepted... but not proveable...
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Colonel32

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« Reply #47 on: July 25, 2004, 03:35:00 PM »
Bronze star

Silver Star

Purple Heart #1

#2

#3

PDF Photocopy of military records.

Definition of a purple heart



I'm not lying, it's public information. It's what Kerry has going for him... rich kid chooses to go to vietnam, earns medals... comes back a young man and gives a very famous speech. Of course there is going to be a lot of money spent on discrediting this... GWB did the same thing to Mccain in the primaries... it worked. Mccain would have been a superior president too.
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Mr. Chips

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« Reply #48 on: July 25, 2004, 06:08:00 PM »
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Mccain would have been a superior president too.

How do you know Kerry will be a good president?  He is an upper crust elitist, with upper crust elitist friends.  He opposed the Vietnam war, didn't he?  Yet he still went?  It just seems like he's been playing the crowd on issues.  How can this man make up his mind on anything?  I bet he doesn't even have a favourite song, or movie.
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« Reply #49 on: July 25, 2004, 06:44:00 PM »
QUOTE (Mr. Chips @ Jul 25 2004, 08:11 PM)
I bet he doesn't even have a favourite song, or movie.

but at least he can talk, and not act like a retard
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Colonel32

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« Reply #50 on: July 25, 2004, 06:51:00 PM »
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How do you know Kerry will be a good president?


I don't know, I actually think he'll be a one term president and won't get much done. I personally think he's an arrogant career politician. It was less of a comment on Kerry or Mccain and more of a comment on GWB.

I don't buy all this "waffling" rhetoric as well. Mccain was a "waffler" as well. Kerry has 20 years of record, I'm sure he's changed his mind a lot.

some say he's a "waffler", someone else says he's the "biggest liberal in the senate". Seems to me thats a bit of a condradiction so I really don't know what to believe. Doesn't really matter anyway, right?
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Mr. Chips

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« Reply #51 on: July 25, 2004, 07:49:00 PM »
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Mr. Chips, what is your favorite movie? Is it the same favorite movie from when you were 6?
There are a lot of our soldiers in Iraq who are very opposed to the war there, but it's their duty. I don't call them hypocrites either.

ok, you have a point...opinions do change...I didnt think I would get such a response...I respect what the troops are doing, I never questioned that, but Kerry came from a wealthy background...he never was forced to do it like it is his duty.  If anything he imposed the duty on himself...god bless him for that....but he is not your average soldier...like colonel32 said, he is a career politician with political motives.  I don't know if he's arrogant, however.  That's something we'll have to see if he gets in wink.gif
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Upper crust? It's fine if you have something against that, but you can't possibly defend Bush that way.

I wasn't defending Bush.
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« Reply #52 on: July 27, 2004, 12:27:00 AM »
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Before 9/11 the administration said that saddam had no WMD's but right after 9/11 they apparently popped out of nowhere. Now Bush tries 2 make up 4 going 2 war needlessly and loosing over 900 American lives by saying that "he had the knowledge 2 create WMD's(so does almost every country) and he hates America(so do most countries)"


ALL quotes pre 9/11:
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"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999


Someone please make an intelligent response instead of ignoring my post and rambling on.

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bgrill27

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« Reply #53 on: July 28, 2004, 08:25:00 PM »
no takers?
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OrkanMan

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« Reply #54 on: July 28, 2004, 08:29:00 PM »
BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Excellent post.
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MHolodak

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« Reply #55 on: July 28, 2004, 09:40:00 PM »
Ill be a taker!
The Clinton Admin didnt send US Soldiers over to Iraq to fight a war... And it was the Bush Admin that did... And it was also Colin Powell and Condy Rice who were quoted in Febuary and July of 2001 saying that Saddam had no capabilities concerning WMDs. That was the same Admin that used ironicly faulty intel to go to war... Most of you right wing people keep saying it was the bad intel, not George Bush lying!!!! Well seeing your post and taking the bad intel point into thought, could it be... that Bill Clinton's admin had that same bad intel as well??? I Just want to know if you feel safer knowing that Saddam is gone?  While also noting that this country that has never been attacked by Iraq, nor has ever had a single American civilian ever been killed by Iraq prior to Bush's war.

Here is the link of the video footage of Powell and Ms. Rice just to back my shit up.
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« Reply #56 on: July 29, 2004, 12:31:00 AM »
laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  Im not shure if your allowed to swear so dont kick me out lol! But think about that valient hero now.

And for those of you who think that stupid fat white nut case Micheal Moore is actually smart wink.gif these are some links that prove how stupid he is and how Farinheight 9/11 is a big lie...



The attachment is a piece written by Dave Kopel calling into question approximately 58 inaccuracies in Fahrenheit 911(The author, Dave Kopel, is a life-long Democrat who endorsed and voted for Ralph Nader in 2000.  He supports some but not all aspects of the current war on terror).





The following links are self-explanatory.


Why the Iraq War Was Legal...
UN resolutions on iraq
Saddam Hussein's Defiance of United Nations Resolution
Attorney General Advised Blair war was legal
(Age Australia: Yes, This War Is Legal)
(United Nations Security Council Resolution #678)
(United Nations Security Council Resolution #687)
(United Nations Charter Article 51)
(United Nations Charter Chapter VII)
(WFB's Latest: Should We Have Gone to War?)

On Michael Moore ...
(WSJ: There's more McCarthy than Murrow in the work of Michael Moore)
(LA Times: Public Keeping Its Cool Over Election Effect of 'Fahrenheit')
Moore Myths
(Slate: Unfairenheit 9/11. The lies of Michael Moore - Christopher Hitchens)
(Newsweek: More Distortions From Michael Moore - Michael Isikoff)
(McCaslin: Major's Mom Call Moore "Maggot That Eats The Dead")
(Sydney Morning Herald: Less is Moore)
(Ed Koch: More Would've Opposed WWII Too)
(Washington Post: Baloney, Moore or Less - Richard Cohen)
((The Hill: Clarke claims responsibility)
(NewsMax: Richard Clarke: Big Part of Moore's Movie 'a Mistake')
(NRO: John Podhoretz: Spider-man 2 is the best comic-book movie ever made)
(NRO: Democrats and the Fahrenheit 9/11 Trap)
(Boston Globe: Limbaughing to the left? - Ellen Goodman)
Moore lies about meeting, Hugging Daschle



17-pages of truth about Bowling for Columbine from former Interior Department attorney David Hardy
www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html





Richard Bushnell has put together a well-documented site that takes you through the inaccuracies in Bowling for Columbine.
Click here to watch Bill O'reilly and Micheal Moore Debate in the "No Spin Zone"


This took an hour of copying and pasteing so liberals enjoy laugh.gif
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MHolodak

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« Reply #57 on: July 29, 2004, 12:47:00 PM »
You are fucking ignorant and retarded... You sound like a stupid teenager who has been corrupted by his parents to belive this neo conservative propaganda that Kerry didnt deserve his medals. It was a Republican government in office when he came back from Vietnam to be honored for his service and given the 3 purple hearts. Its absolutely sickening what you're saying... That he dove in the way of bullets so he could go home?! At least he went, asshole! Unlike George Bush who was a fuckin' draft dodger, yeah what leadership he shows... Ive heard some pretty terrible and uneducated shit in my time, but Jesus Christ... You take the cake my friend.
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« Reply #58 on: July 29, 2004, 04:56:00 PM »
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You are fucking ignorant and retarded... You sound like a stupid teenager




Hmm...that sounds a lot like yourself.
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« Reply #59 on: July 29, 2004, 06:41:00 PM »
QUOTE (OrkanMan @ Jul 29 2004, 08:59 PM)



Hmm...that sounds a lot like yourself.

Beat me to it...
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